Topic started by Dravid (@ 62.73.245.39) on Sun Jul 20 22:57:54 .
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Hey guys

I am starting this thread, and hoping that people from all of these areas will participate and comment. These are the main dravidian areas, still we fight among us. We are the same people, still we try to distance us from each other. I will agree that it seems logical that f.ex Karnataka and Andrah Pradesh will have been touched more by aryan blood then TN and Kerala, but this amount wouldnt be sufficient to change the ethnicity from dravidian looks (aryans keeps their race pure). The SL tamils has also been touched by both arabic and dutch blood(and also sinhala which is a dravidian/aryan/mongolian mix), but the ethnicity amongst the general population is still dravidian-like. So why do Karnataka/Andrah Pradesh take pride in being sanskritinized (or is this just my impression) and distance themselves from TN? I want to know how the telgu/kannada people feel they relate to the tamil and malayalee people. Also some malayalee people try to distance themselves from TN, even though they are like the mirror image of TN in India. The TN tamils and SL tamils are the only two that doesnt seem to "discriminate/fight" amongst each other (except from some anti-tiger fanatics and "india-stay-out-of-our-war" minded people).
Just because the TN is the people amongst us that still refuses to bow under to the aryan invaders, and change our culture and language, we are unpopular amongst the north indians. Shouldnt the other south indian people support us in this, rather then distancing themselves. Are tamils to stubborn? Telgus and kandigas (and mallus), please give us your views, and your impressions of the general populations of your states, views on tamils.
India was our land, we are the true indians! Dont lick the asses of our invaders.
(PS: It is also logical that the north indians has been touched by dravidian blood, but i still havent seen a trend amongst north-indians to distance themselves from hindi, and claim dravidianism. Hmmm...)

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• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-mtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Nov 11 19:05:10 EST 2004
  
  Sandeep read this post by Thiru A P MASILMANI in this link about the word Naga where the word 'Nair' came from.
  http://forumhub.com/tlit/14207.8379.22.07.56.html
  http://forumhub.com/tlit/10953.8379.22.07.56.html
  
  --##It is the change or corruption as follows: thiivu > thiivam > thiipam. (island).
  As the end of Naaga+ (thiivu+am) corrupted to (thiipam), the beginning of the word (Thiiva)naagari corrupted to (Deva)+ naagari. Many Nagas settled in Chera Naadu and Naagar corrupted to Nair, whilst some Nagars and others who were conferred the title "Naaya(ga)rs" (meaning generals or troop leaders which title also corrupted to Nair, causing more confusion!! As a result, it is said that you have many subdivions in the Nair caste today... That piece is just for your fun knowledge. ##--
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-mtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Nov 11 19:15:03 EST 2004
  
  What do you think Sandeep? You are still afraid of Thamizhans? Kerala is Chera Nadu. Cherars were Thamizhars and of course now day Keralities don't differ except that Thamizh has corrupted there to some extend and the writing is different. Sanskirit took in more Thamizh words and Malayalam has more Thamizh in it and some Sanskirit..and Kerala share 85% of its border with TN..think about it Sandeep. The Thamizhans aren't your enemy. Do not see Thamizhars as your foe and Do not treat Thamizhars like your foe. I am sure that Thamizhars won't treat Keralities like that.
  
  
• From: Sandeep (@ inet02.unilever.com) on: Fri Nov 12 09:49:39 EST 2004
  
  Now I am more afraid of Tamilians. You are trying to devide keralatiles saying that those who are relatively fair are outsiders and not keralites.
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ ac84b596.ipt.aol.com) on: Fri Nov 12 21:21:46 EST 2004
  
  //Now I am more afraid of Tamilians. You are trying to devide keralatiles saying that those who are relatively fair are outsiders and not keralites.//
  Mr. Sandeep you have an issue of being afraid of everything. That I can't cure, you have to cure yourself. I didn't pinpoint and the fair skinned people in Kerala to be outsiders. The average Thamizhan skin color is somewhat dark brown and some have light brown skin but not like the skin of Iranians. I didn't try to divide Keralities. How can I when I don't see any difference between Keralities and Thamizhars?
  
  
• From: black (@ 24.109.128.230) on: Sat Nov 13 23:02:09 EST 2004
  
  Actually the problem with whole tamil culture. The discussion is all surrounding brahmins-non brahmins, aryans, dravids, hinduism , vedas, thirukural, anti-hindi, white, black.
  Actually Tamils are inferior in all the subjects, they have no history, no culture, no good langauge so all these trouble, and so is this forum. Tamil is basically a rogue community, that is the reason they keep on fighting among themselves, with neighbours like srilanka,karnataka, kerala, with country like india. with white skinned people, with brahmins etc etc.
  No one can help these dirty pigs.
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ ac953185.ipt.aol.com) on: Sun Nov 14 21:47:38 EST 2004
  
  Mr. Mocking black sire, please help the Thamizh race to free itself from this absurd behaviour. We seek the light through your sight. Would you help us with all your might? We mean no fight.
  
  Yes I am proud to be a dirty pig if you think Thamizhans are dirty pigs! nanRi!
  
  
• From: blahblah (@ ppp98-78.dsl-pun.eth.net) on: Sun Nov 14 23:42:36 EST 2004
  
  I can only say that whatever this guy who calls himself 'black' says in his theory best fits himself and he has only revealed his own culture.I don't think this fellow is a malayalee and even if he is,we simply disown this guy.In such a forum where we are all faceless any idiot can come up with such dirty ,abusive stuff.I certainly do believe that the Tamilians have a great culture.
  
  
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• From: krishna (@ w-cache.hw.ac.uk) on: Wed Jan 5 15:17:27
  
  hi friends,
  iam from karnataka, i know we r all dravidians,we have started feeling the pinch from the hindi peopl. there has been a big migration of people from north india and these migrants expect us to speak in hindi in my city itself. one more thing: about tamilians, they also act as if they come from heaven and except us to talk in their language in my place and except us to.. see their cinemas and doesnot respect us . in one incident. my freind was shouting ;;;with tamil i can survive anywhere in the world'whats this stupid.. really these things try to keep us distnt from tamilians . i dont blame all tamils, there are good people also and now
  dont you think we kannadigas have been exploited by kannada hating tamils and hindi proud n.indians
  
  
• From: davie (@ d-128-193-107.bootp.virginia.edu) on: Wed Jan 5 18:04:04 EST 2005
  
  @krishna
  :-))
  tamil and telugu people are great movie fans i guess.
  not kannadigas i think.
  i am not a great movie fan either.
  we dont drink sambar either.
  there are always pigs and indecent poeple in this world but u cant generalize stuff
  
  
• From: davie (@ d-128-193-107.bootp.virginia.edu) on: Wed Jan 5 18:04:16 EST 2005
  
  @krishna
  :-))
  tamil and telugu people are great movie fans i guess.
  not kannadigas i think.
  i am not a great movie fan either.
  we dont drink sambar.
  there are always pigs and indecent poeple in this world but u cant generalize stuff
  
  
• From: jk (@ c211-28-116-123.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) on: Thu Jan 20 23:22:08 EST 2005
  
  north indians stink and anyone who supports them
  they bloody come into the South and try and run things when they are hopless incompitant people.
  They should be sent back to Iran and the Middle East where they came from bloody f****.
  
  
• From: kumar (@ w-cache.hw.ac.uk) on: Sun Jan 23 10:52:24 EST 2005
  
  mr dravid.iam a kannadiga, u think we are dist'ing
  from tamils.. then u r wrong.. come and see in karnataka how many tamils are living and see the opposite way in tn.. u can hardly find any kannadigas.. u say 'stop licking assess of invaders'. india is always been invaded by some or the other as per british literature(muslims,aryans,british,french,dutch)and remember it is not only the aryans. so what do u say for this.sanskrit is also a rich language.. i bet u even tamil has sanskrit words and increased its richness and any language is always influenced by one or the other languages. tamil,kannada,telugu r a product of brahmi which is the mother of 8 languages..
  
  
• From: kumar (@ w-cache.hw.ac.uk) on: Sun Jan 23 10:55:15 EST 2005
  
  some fanatic leaders have imposed poison of division.. come out of the well try to be united and stop silly and useless issues of sanskrit, aryan..etc..etc..no one is killing you.. we are also surviving and u r also surviving.
  
  

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