Topic started by Saravanan (@ ppp-219.65.96.40.chn.vsnl.net.in) on Thu Jun 19 16:28:57 .
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Rating in Acting in Movies
1.Shivaji 2.Kamal 3.Rajini 4. MGR

Acting in Real Life
1.MGR 2.Kamal 3.Shivaji and Rajini

Comedy Acting
All are Excellent in Comedy and Equally placed

International Award
Shivaji - Chevaliea Award from France
Shivaji - Best Afro-Asian Award for Veera Pandiya Kattabhoman

Prestigious Indian Award
1.MGR - Bharath Rathna
2.Shivaji - Dada Saheb Phalke award

National Awards
1. MGR once for Rickshakaran
2. Kamal three times for Moondram Pirai, Nayakan and Indian

Planning & Sucess
1. MGR planned Well and Sucedded as per plan and become the Chief Minister
2. Shivaji planned and Suceeded in Acting.
But Shivaji should have tried (planned) for Oscar.Failed in Politics.No Clear Planning in the End
3. Rajini - Planned and Suceeded Well.
No Clear Planning in the End. In the Finishing Stages in a Confused state.
4. Kamal - Planned and Suceeded Well.
Planning and Proceeding towards Oscar. But can he get it ?

Heights
1. Kamal can never reach the heights of Acting of Shivaji Ganesan
2. Rajini can never achieve the sucess of MGR.

Image maintanance
1.MGR 2.Shivaji and Rajini 3.Kamal

Beauty
MGR,Shivaji and Kamal - Top 5 Most Beautiful and Handsome Personalaties in Tamil Cinema Ever.
Rajinikanth First hero with black color who reached the Mega SuperStar status.

Sucess in other languages
1. Kamal - Sucessful in Hindi, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam
2. Rajini - Sucessful in Hindi

Selection of Songs
1. MGR is the best in Selection of Songs. He Squeezed MSV and got the very best. His songs are
still the greatest
2. Kamal is a ZERO in selection of Songs.

Salary
Shivaji and MGR charged Appropriate amount as Salary. They showed the way to growth of Tamil cinema.
If one movie is failure producers can survive.
Kamal and Rajini charged heavily and showed the way to the destruction of Tamil Cinema. They
charged One third of the total business. If one movie is failure Producer Govinda.
All the other third rated actors followed this.

Friendship
Kamal and Rajini are close friends and Rajini follows some of Advice of Kamal and they discuss
lot of Problems
MGR and Shivaji were not that close

Enemy
1. MGR considered Rajini as Rival. But Rajini did not like this. When Rajini went to invite
MGR for his marriage MGR did not see him.
2. Shivaji did not consider anybody as rivals

Fans
1. MGR is a die hard fan of M.K. Thiyagaraja Baghavathar. In a hotel MGR went to see
Bhagavathar. He waited for two days to see him and finally fainted.
Then Baghavathar saw him and Blessed him
2. Kamal is a fan of Shivaji Ganesan. Shivaji acted in Kamal's Devar Magan which was his
last movie in his career with Superb Performance.
3. Rajini is a Die-hard fan of Shivaji Ganesan. Rajini in his early stages tried to meet Shivaji
But he was never allowed inside Shivaji's house. When Rajini become a Star he liked to act with
Shivaji and included in many movies including Padayyappa.

ABC Class and Mass Audiences
1. Shivaji - Leader. He is the only Hero who had Class and Mass audiences
2. MGR and RajiniKanth - Mass Audience
3. Kamal - Class Audience

Fans Attitude
MGR and Shivaji had die hard fans. MGR fans will not see Shivaji movies and
Shivaji fans will not see MGR movies.
Kamal and Rajini fans will watch both Kamal and Rajini movies.

Direction
1. MGR directed three movies. All were Superhits. Most Respected Commercial Director
2. Kamal directed movies Hey Ram and Marudhanayakam and now Sandiyar. He lifted
the standard of Tamil movies to international Level.

Neighbours Envy Owner's Pride.
(The movies other Heros will Envy and Regret that they have not done that role.)
MGR - Anbae Vaee, Madurai Veeran, Ulagam Sutrum Valiban, Enga Veetu pillai
Shivaji - Veera Pandiya Kattabhoman, ThiruVilayadal, Thillana Mohanambal,Parashakti
Kamal - Pathinaru Vaithinile, Salangai Oli,Devar Magan,Indian
Rajini - Mannan, Annamalai, Basha,Padayappa

MGR Shivaji Kamal Rajini
The Mega Supreme stars who Stayed in the Top position for more than 25 years
They were Sincere in their work
Had to struggle and Work Hard to reach their positions.
The Legends showed the world who ever works hard can come up in their life whoever they may be.

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• From: R.Saravanan (@ ppp-219.65.96.194.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon Jun 23 04:18:47 EDT 2003
  
  To Rajni Fans
  Here is a article in TFMpage.com about Rajini and MGR. When Rajni Kanth was in the prime of his career he was virtually working around the clock so much so that he was stressed out. Perhaps to relieve the stress he had been over indulging in drinks. It was about this time that he and MGR had a fallout. I do not wish to go into details but a fallout with MGR means one's downfall. Rajni approached K.Balachander, his gurunathar, about his predicament. KB reiterated that life would not be easy if one is not in good terms with MGR. He suggested to Rajni to run wild in Mount Road on a hot mid-day just to prove that whatever he had been doing against MGR was not of his own doing. Rajni did just that but then he was labelled a mad man after this incident. Although it helped the situation with MGR he nevertheless began to feel depressed again. He was acting in the film "Billa" at that time. It was here he met up with Kanndhasan who was doing the songs for the same film. He opened up his emotions to Kaviarasar and the latter grasped the situation well. He assured Rajni that this was a turning point in the life of the former. He further assured that the time was not far for him (Rajni) to overtake the popularity of MGR. In short he will be a superstar soon. It was Kanndhasan who gave him the title 'superstar' way back in 1979. He immediately penned the song "Naatil Enakoru Oor Oondu..." for this film and said that some day he will acknowledge this predictive song. If one were to hear this song in verbatim now he or she will understand Kaviarasar's "dheerka dharishinam". In real life Rajni became an admirer of Kannadhasan after this incident. He even went to Kannadhasan's house to hand deliver the invitation to his wife for his wedding although Kanndhasan was no more around. Such was his indebtedness to Kaviarasar. The above song along with the other song "My name is Billa" has some semblance to the lyrics.
  
  
• From: Thamizhan (@ ppp-219.65.118.158.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon Jun 23 10:45:54 EDT 2003
  
  Saravanan thx for sharing this info with us,but can you elaborate what was the "fall-out" between Rajini and MGR,I haven't heard anything of that.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.134.69.162) on: Mon Jun 23 12:07:18 EDT 2003
  
  Saravanan,
  
  >>Rajinikanth.
  In the 80's Rajini has done some Superb Acting in these movies 1. Mullum Malarum 2. Bhuvana oru Kelvikuri 3.Ninithale Inikkum. 4.Aaril Irundhu Arupathu Varai 5. Mundru Mugam 6. Netrikan and 7.Engeyo Ketta Kural But at on stage he diverted to Masala Movies and his acting Talent was wasted. We are unable to know what his Full Talent. But he can be Rated as third Best Hero in
  Acting next to Shivaji and Kamal<<
  
  100% Correct!
  
  But MGR was never fit, he was not muscular, he also had fat belly, but Kamal during his younger days, 70's -80's was fit, later he also developed a beer belly, but belly is the hardest thing to make it slim, believe me, haha.
  
  in terms of physique only a few personalities who are slim & mascular in Tamil film.
  
  1) Sathyaraj
  2) Arun Pandiyan
  3) Prashanth
  
  in heroines
  
  1) Aish , My fav, :))
  2) Simms , another fav :))
  3) Trisha
  
  this is one major factor affecting Tamil Cinema, which is lot of flabby & chubby actors/actresses are around, compared to bollywood, but then again, kollywood actors/actresses are far more talented than north
  
  
• From: R.Saravanan (@ ppp-219.65.96.220.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon Jun 23 14:49:11 EDT 2003
  
  Dear Thamizan
  That article about Rajini is posted by Mr.R.MahendraRaj.Mr.Mahendraj has posted lot of information about Kannadasan which everybody interested in Kannadasan should read. Regarding Rajini matter I don't know anything about that. Also i have no idea whether that news is correct.
  (I had done only cut and paste work)
  
  
• From: sree (@ ) on: Fri Aug 22 03:39:20
  
  ok
  
  
• From: sree@sandiyar (@ 61.6.65.210) on: Fri Aug 22 03:58:58 EDT 2003
  
  kamal is the best actor in the world!!!no body can challenge his talent so far.keep it up!!!
  WELL DONE MR.MARUDANAYAGAM.
  
  JAI HIND...JAI HIND...JAI HIND.
  
  
• From: Krishnan (@ db3175.alshamil.net.ae) on: Mon Mar 22 04:20:45
  
  anyone has the lyrics of the 'hari katha' style song performed by MGR in the film Engal thangam (I think film name is correct), when he is chased by the police, where he enacts story of Indians going to moon.
  
  

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