The tamil industry and why it just won't change
Topic started by theena (@ 203.143.1.19) on Fri Feb 1 06:31:51 .
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I recently saw Aalavanthaan and i thought it was incredible. I thought the sasme things of "Hey!ram","Bombay","Uyirae", "Iruvar', etc. But unfortunetley some narrow-minded, asses in India didn't. Why not?? These same crappy SOBs make piceces of CRAP like "friends", 'sharjahan", well the list goes on and on, but they love it. Eg:VijayKanth's "Vanathaipolai"-what a load of crap that was and yet they made it a huge hit and Cinema Express named it the best movie, snubbing a movie like 'Bharathi'. Why? Maybe some of my indian friends can explain this mystery to me.
Responses:
- From: ds (@ bkj-cache81.jaring.my)
on: Fri Feb 1 08:07:40
I agree with you.Tamil cinema needs a revamp.They can't make crap movies like red,choklet,shajahan etc.Recently azaghi was the messiah for tamil cinema.After a bleak 2001...2002 might bring hope for tamil cinema.Movies like kannathil...and many more.
- From: Unmai (@ cache86.156ce.singa.pore.net)
on: Fri Feb 1 08:54:28
Theena, I can relate to how you're feeling. The literacy rate of Tamil nadu is not very high. Thus, many good movies are not well-received. The mass rather seek fantasies and hero-worship someone till their last breath. If you take the Malyalam field, they have several good stories cos literacy rate is almost 100%. Educated people appreciate good films. Everytime, you're disappointed abt a tamil film, I suggest you borrow a telugu film. After watching it, you will definitely appreciate tamil films even the ones with mediocre stories. :D
- From: ec (@ bryant.rz-berlin.mpg.de)
on: Fri Feb 1 09:47:51
"Everytime, you're disappointed abt a tamil film, I suggest you borrow a telugu film (or a hindi film). After watching it, you will definitely
appreciate tamil films even the ones with mediocre stories. :D"
Unmai-I just added few more words to your post!
- From: Pathima (@ 213.86.122.5)
on: Fri Feb 8 08:05:48
AZAHAI was a breath of fresh air . An absolute phenomenon film, in such a long time have I been so impressed. I wanted a different ending but I think it was the scrrenwriter who left it up to the individual viewer to decide for themselves he ever finds her again.
After House full Parthban has done your average Tamil film but what a comeback. I think we definately need a dose of films like these. Nasser did Muham(Face) he really excelled himself.
Theena be patient times are changing there is a slow but for sure a revolution evolving as I type in the Tamil industry there small hidden clues. Look the days of dancing around a tree in a studio built setting has changed nowadays most songs are shot in a foreign location mainly Switzerland.The subject of films are changing, yes we still get films solely concentrating on love becos that is apparently what sells we are now getting films using the subject of love and taking it to another level like mixing different religions(Bombay) and love and wins again, parents expectation and love(Jodi) and love wins again, finding love after marriage, dying for love, being in love, losing to love and list is endless.
So Theena hang in there
- From: theena (@ 203.143.1.20)
on: Sun Feb 17 07:59:00
How on earth did Pamal K Sambatham become a hit when Aalavandhaan was a hundred times better. Explain this too me. I'm a big fan of Kamal Hassan and i'm glad that he has a hit after Aalavandhaan, but PKS was nothing-Even Thenali was better.
- From: Nisha (@ myalla0.connect.com.au)
on: Sun Feb 17 21:12:44
ofcourse thennali was better. It ran for more than 175 days. It is the best comedy film I've ever seen...hey, I was still laughing 2 weeks after watching it.
You must be a sick minded person...to like alavanthan...it was a dumb movie. Ofcourse kamal acted well...but the movie was garbage.
But you are right with some of your points...movie like thavasi turns out a hit....but movie like punnakai theysum doesn't even get a mention.
somebody in the forum mention make Vijayakanth and gunal act as a couple...it will be a sure hit.
- From: viko (@ cache6.156ce.scvmaxonline.com.sg)
on: Mon Feb 18 04:59:16
aalvandaan is a great movie for its tecnical aspect not for its screenplay
- From: DTS (@ resvip247.cs.usm.my)
on: Wed Feb 27 23:22:39
aalavandan is a technical movie which exhibits excellence in kamal's ability to emulate hollywood style of movie making. I dun really watch tamils except for some excellent movies like from Kamal and a few others. What I have noticed is that tamil movies that I like seems to be a flop or a near-flop in India. I believe it's the low literacy rate in India and so leads to a simple mode of entertainment.
- From: Shakthi (@ 202.56.251.12)
on: Thu Feb 28 02:30:18
All points have been, excellently expressed by too many hubbers here.
I have nothing new to say.
The making of "art films vs commercial films", is more or less the
topic taken here.
The reasons of certain movies failing to appeal mass public can be:
1.Literacy level (As pointed out before)
2.Financial condition.
3.Varied level of thinking and tastes.
4.Your Life style, and how the movie can akin to ur life style.
Now, if u wonder how point no.2 plays important role,
Lets take an example of a person who lives below the invisible "line
of poverty".
He works hard all day, sweats and earns his piece of bread, comes home,
(or does not come home but goes to the bar and gobbles down a peg?!?)
totally tired, driven by fatigue, and we have house hold problems waiting
to eat him up. So all he needs is to relax.
Hence he goes to a theatre, to watch a colourful masala movie where heroines
dance around the trees (not anymore!). A simple , not so mind boggling story
is what he can enjoy! When he has 101 problems himself, he sure WOULD NOT
prefer to watch some art based works or movies which make sense or movies which
deals on MACRO LEVEL PROBLEMS (say roja?)! he has enough MICRO LEVEL problems
himself.
Again, talking on point 4,
We often wonder how some stories which probably has nothing
to say but, emotion mushy love or family hatred.. wins the heart of millions?
But a village Karupayi or town bred vijaya who happens to stay in small village
or town, CANNOT OR WILL NOT picturise or appreciate the surroundings in
movies like "AALAVANDAN".
Regading point 3,
we ourselves can see, some ppl saying Mr or Ms.XXX is best and others saying
no...Mr or Ms.YYY is best!
So taste differes. Long back when kamal hassan did a beautiful work in
"GUNA",
I was touched by the excellent portrayal of a psychopathic character. I had
watched it with few of my friends, and was teased by all for my extraordinary
(and eccentric!) taste.
We all were on same grade and our literacy level was on par!
Above all, anybody producing movie wants to see vitamin M. So he cannot
continue to take movies which does not reach masses. He does a business
and profit making is the primary goal.
I do share ur agony that excellent movies like "AALAVANDAN", etc
goes unnoticed. But like said before, times are changing, you are finding
better movies, with variety of stories, unlike olden era.
Trends and thinking would change, but would change slowly!
We should again remember not all foreign movies are great! Hollywood produces
countless number of movies, and what we get to see is only the best. Movies
which made fame or name or movies which was nominated in big level is all
what we get to see.
When u go deep inside every industry u neverthless would find crap EVERYWHERE!
NOT ONLY IN TAMIL INDUSTRY!
thx,
signed,
Shakthi
- From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Feb 28 09:36:30
I think 4 a change, the should STOP making films about LOVE all the time, during the 80's there were murder mysteries based films, but nowaday, all u see is LOVE & LOVE, excpet Nandha, Kasi & KM
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