Topic started by KDOT (@ 203.90.90.60) on Sun Aug 25 13:34:44 .
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i think kamal has often been offended for things which he ACTUALLY IS AGAINST . for instance,he has been strongly offended that he never gives any scope of acting for other actors and actresses in his movies.BUT, WHAT HE ACTUALLY DOES IS A CONTRADICTION TO ALL THESE, SO SPEAKS THE HISTORY.

NAASER--- DEVAR MAGAN,MAGALIR MATTUM,KURITHIPUNAL,AVVAI SHANMUGI.


NAGESH---- WHO WAS NEGLECTED BY ALL AT ONE STAGE CAME BACK STRONGLY THRO KAMALS MOVIES. (AVVAI SHANMUGI, NAMMAVAR(GOT AN NATIONAL AWARD)


KAKKA RADHAKRISHNAN---DEVAR MAGAN,GUNA.

REVATHI--- DEVAR MAGAN.(NATIONAL AWARD )


SIVAJI GANEASAN-- DEVAR MAGAN(GOT A SPECIAL JURY AWARD),

JEYARAM-THENALI

YUHI SETHU-- PANCHATHANTHIRAM

RAJESH--MAHANADHI

VADIVELU--THEVAR MAGAN.

DELHI GANESH--- AVVAI SHANMUGI, HEY RAM.

ATUL KULKARNI--- HEY RAM

VASUNDRA DAS-- HEY RAM.

HEMA MALINI--HEY RAM.

NOT ONLY ACTORS AND ACTRESSES, BUT SO MANY TECHNICIANS.

THE LIST GOES ON......

ONE THING WE MUST REMEMBER IS THAT KAMAL IS A STAR AS WELL AS AN ACTOR. TO THE SURVUVAL OF ACTOR KAMAL, HE SOMETIMES NEEDS THE SUPPORT OF STAR KAMAL. THATS WHY HE DOMINATES IN SOME MOVIES AKA AALAVANDAAN.

ANOTHER THING WE RELATE KAMAL IS WITH PLAIGARISM. THE SO CALLED COPYING FROM HOLLYWOOD MOVIES.

TRUE, SOME OF HIS MOVIES STORY LINE HAS SHADES OF THOSE MOVIES. BUT ,WHAT ABT THE SCREENPLAY AND CHARECTERISATION?? THEY ARE DIFFERENT.

THERE ARE SO MANY MOVIES MADE IN INDIA WHICH WERE INSPIRED FROM "THE GODFATHER". BUT CAN U TELL ME ONE SINGLE MOVIE WHICH CAME CLOSE TO" THEVAR MAGAN"(EXCEPT NAYAGAN"). ONLY THE CRUX OF THE MOVIE IS INSPIRED FROM HOLLYWOOD, NOT THE MOVIE MAKING STYLE.

ACCORDING TO ME, REMAKING OR COPYING AS PPL SAY, IS NOTHING WRONG AT ALL, ITS JUS LIKE FILMING NOVEL. RATHER, ITS BETTER TO DO AN INSPIRED MOVIE RATHER THAN A CRAP WITH ORIGINALITY!!!
A PERSON WHO CARES FOR HIS COUNTRY AND HAVE PAASION FOR HIS COUNTRY COULD ONLY MAKE A MOVIE LIKE HEY RAM.
DO U SAY THAT HE ONLY DOES REMAKES?? WHAT ABT HEY RAM, APPORVA SAHOTHARGAL, MAHANADHI( DONT SAY ITS INSPIRED FROM INNOCENT MAN), RAJAPARVAI ETC.. TRULY ORIGINAL. AGREE WITH ME OR NOT , HE HAS GREAT STUFF AND HISTORY WILL PROVE THE REST.

SO, FOLKS WHAT THE FUSS ALL ABOUT?? DO U SAY THAT A MAN WITH NO FORMAL EDUCATION, NOW KNOWS EIGHT LANGUAGES THRO CINEMA, A MAN WHO BREATHES CINEMA, A MAN WITH GREAT CONCERN FOR HIS COUNTRY, WHO MAKES MOVIES WITH TRUE LOVE FOR ART, AS A FOOL, A WOMENISER AND A PLAIGIRISER???


U MUST BE KIDDING.

FOLKS,ITS OUR DUTY TO PROTECT HIM AND PROJECT HIM WELL TO THE OTHER PART OF THIS GLOBE.

IF WE FAIL TO DO THIS, WE R DOING THE SAME INJUSTICE AS OUR FOREFATHERS DID TO BHARATHIYAR.

THATS ALL I COULD SAY.

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• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Thu Aug 29 09:51:15
  
  Kalyan,
  
  """"you should know that brains cant be installed thru your ass-hole """
  
  Why don't you first give it a try with your mom's ass-hole and let me know the result?
  
  We will work on fixing that later, dorkhead!
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Thu Aug 29 10:08:08
  
  Music-lover,
  
  All I am asking is, just kindly request the great critics, K Balachander, Manirahthnam, shyam benegal and govind nihalini to comment on Kamalhasan's creativity just after watching these following movies, which are,
  
  Avvai Shanmugi and Mrs. Doubtfire
  
  What about Bob and Thenali (the story writer is kAMALHASAN, I believe)
  
  Very Bad things- 5-thanthiram (story: Kamalhasan).
  
  If you wish, I can send the VHS of all the thrree hollywood movies at my own expense.
  
  It is very simple. They need to watch these movies and comment on his creativity.
  
  Would you kindly do that for me???
  
  Thank you!
  
  
  
  If you wish I can buy and send you the VHS (PAL) version of Mrs. Doubt fire,
  
  
• From: kamal fan (@ 205.148.63.219) on: Thu Aug 29 10:52:47
  
  Saradha...If you want to criticise a person, u can criticise with any point. I just want to throw some light on Kamal, the great creator. Kindly listen...! Kamalhaasan is a great story writer and a man with guts who can try different things. Nobody in indian cinema acted as Dwarf and tried various roles like kamalhaasan.
  He is not only a actor but he is the man of all talents. Can you name a actor who can do a movie like Salangai oli? He sang lot of songs which are appreciated by people and singers too. For example, 'Sundari neeyum' is a song which is appreciated by Mr.Bala murali krishna and KJ YESUDAS.
  He has written great lyrics also. Just go thru the song 'Nee paartha paarvaikku' from HEYRAM. Regarding his acting skills, there were lot of movies, but the best example is 'Jail scene in Mahanadhi'.
  Regarding the personal life, it doesnt matter for a FAN to look that and nobody has any rights to comment just becos he is an actor. We are not talking kamal as a man here..its just Kamal, the creator. He has done lot of good things in personal life too like blood donation, eye donation and even BODY donation.
  You are again and again talking about some of his comedy movies which are inspired or copied from hollywood and not discussing about his talents. Anyway, you will never agree that he is a great actor..becos you already decided 'Not to agree!'.
  Last but not least...just go thru the following movies, SALANGAI OLI, SIPPIKUUL MUTHU, NAYAGAN, DEVAR MAGAN,MAHANADHI,GUNA, KURUDHIPUNAL,RAJA PARVAI,MOONRAM PIRAI...if you think all the other actors has reached the same heights as Kamalhaasan, i rest my case! Even iam ready to send DVDs for you!
  
  
• From: Milton (@ palo15.pacific.net.sg) on: Thu Aug 29 11:00:58
  
  Sarada,
  This is the first time I respond you,because this is the first time you put your question in a decent way
  
  Well,What you are trying to prove.Kamal is not creative enough..is it?..Let it be..It is your openion .But see we(Most of the people in TN) are not intellectuals like you to watch all hollywood movies and enjoy .We are poor people unlike you ,who are not much care about hollywood movies ..If there is any sensible movie in tamil ,we will appreciate it ,and don't care about it is original or not .Because we are atleast happy to receive something different from other parts of the world..If you are much worry about copyright and orginality ,please don't watch those movies ..But leave us,,Don't stop our oppertunities to meet sensible movies ,which are mostly new for us(old for some people like you) .We are very happy with Kamal Hassan who can bring us some better things from other parts of the world and delivering us in our's point of you..
  
  I accept you are very intellectual and know about Hollywood and World cinema .But please leave us to get something which we can understand
  
  Bye.
  
  
• From: tamilan (@ revlukup2.clr.com) on: Thu Aug 29 12:48:46
  
  Milton,
  Well said!!!!!.
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Thu Aug 29 14:30:26
  
  Milton,
  
  You are discussing like real man. I do not think I ever had a problem with you. You have all the rights to like kamalhasan and enjoy his films. Nobody had any problem with that.
  
  It is all in your hand. If you kick a ball real hard, it will come back to you in the same pace and it may hurt you sometime. But it is in your hand.
  
  But, Do you know the meaning of arrogance,
  
  Here is one example,
  
  """"there is no need to describe his achivements as an actor or as a behind the screen performer, those who accept his greatness in his chosen field have accepted that already and those who deny that are cheating themselves.""""
  
  Especially the line,
  
  """those who deny that are cheating themselves.""""
  
  Only some cocky bstds can make statements like this. Such bastds should be tagught a lesson when it is needed by indicating the reality and citing some important truths.
  
  You just keep away, okay?
  
  
  
  
• From: kalyan (@ 202.9.169.99) on: Thu Aug 29 21:38:24
  
  milton and others,
  leave it buddies, it is hard to convince idiots and this particular idiot sar... seems having no other job than to check the forum site and reply sh*t for every statement. we all have other more important works.
  
  
  
• From: Gustav Jung (@ 61.11.82.10) on: Fri Aug 30 00:54:31
  
  yeah, like watching that pervert showing his butt in movies!
  
  
• From: Adarsh (@ 61.11.83.174) on: Fri Aug 30 01:28:42
  
  Gustang,
  
  Nobody is forcing you to watch his movies. I still dont understand the grudge some of you ppl have against Kamal.
  
  
• From: Gustav Jung (@ 61.11.82.10) on: Fri Aug 30 02:02:28
  
  adarsh, its the same grudge "some of these people" have against rajni. let them keep their mouth shut on rajni and they'll get ditto treatment. athe vittittu eppo paathaalum rajniye bash pannittu irunthaa, why do you expect those who like rajni to keep mum?
  
  
• From: kdot (@ 203.90.90.33) on: Fri Aug 30 07:43:48
  
  JUS DONT WANNA DISCUSS WITH THIS FILTHY IDIOT NAMED "SARADHA", WHO CONSIDERS SHYAM BENEGEL, GOVIND NIHLANI,ISMAIL MECHANT AND JAMES IVORY AS MORONS(BY THE WAY DO U KNOW WHO IS JAMES IVORY??? AND HAVE U SEEN ANY FILMS OF BENEGEL AND NIHLANI??)
  
  U RATE 'MUTHALVAN' AS A GR8 MOVIE. BUT EVEN MUTHALVAN IS INSPIRED FROM AN ANOTHER TAMIL MOVIE CALLED "PUTHUMAI PITHAN".
  
  IF U DUNNO ABT CINEMA PLEASE DONT COMMENT ABT IT. SEE,THIS HABIT OF PASSING COMMENTS IS INFECTIOUS,SINCE OUR SOCEITY IS MORE INCLINED IN BELIEVING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY AND DONT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO THINK OF THEIR OWN.
  
  SEE, DONT THINK THAT IM COMPARING RAJINI AND KAMAL, BUT PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Fri Aug 30 09:57:55
  
  Kdot,
  
  H.C Brown is a Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry.
  His theory about "Nonclassical Carbonium ion" turned out to be completely wrong! He never admitted that, though.
  
  Why do think SHYAM BENEGEL, GOVIND NIHLANI,ISMAIL MECHANT AND JAMES IVORY will never make mistakes?
  
  Good luck to you!!!!
  
  
• From: Music-lover (@ dialpool-210-214-147-173.maa.sify.net) on: Fri Aug 30 10:11:52
  
  Saradha
  Amazing stuff! I like your perseverence -
  Benegal, Nihalini, Merchant, Ivory, KB, MR and add to this list, Amol Palekar, IR, writer Sujatha, director K.Vishwanath, danse Maestro. Birju Maharaj and danceuse(s) Yamini Krishnamurthy and Malavika Sarukkai, all the three naming "Salangai Oli" as a stunning exposition of Indian classical dance - well, well, the list of morons is never-ending - amazing indeed!
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Fri Aug 30 10:47:59
  
  Music-lover,
  
  You have a habit of jumping one question to other.
  
  One at a time, plese.
  
  Let me go back,
  
  """All I am asking is, just kindly request the great critics, K Balachander, Manirahthnam, shyam benegal and govind nihalini to comment on Kamalhasan's creativity just after watching these following movies, which are, etc etc?"""
  
  Did you have a chance to think about? Have you made any progress?
  
  
• From: Milton (@ palo15.pacific.net.sg) on: Fri Aug 30 14:33:53
  
  To all kamal fans,
  In recent days there is a person called 'Sarada' ,I don't know what is wrong with you .She/He is much worry about CopyRight and always wants Kamal to retire as if He/She will get any PF ,if kamal retires ..So far I have never seen and sensible points and always try to bash Kamal without any reason.Arguing with People like 'Sarada' will make no sense ..He/She may be Rajini fan .But why He/she think bashing kamal is equal to Praising Rajini .Criticism is good,if you come out with Plus and minus ..But this person repeatedly says Kamal is copycat,old,ugly,cannot act all.
  
  Do you think it is sensible to argue with these kind of people ?
  
  There are people like Rajinidotcom who is a moderator of rajinidotcom group and rajinifans.com ..This sarada is nothing better Rajini fan than Rajinidotcom .Go and ask Rajinidotcom about Kamal..He will tell you How kamal is a great actor ..
  
  all kamal fans, Please ignore this 'Sarada' ,if you are a True Kamal fan .
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Fri Aug 30 15:26:18
  
  Milton,
  
  Thanks for the understanding and sorting out the problem!!!!
  
  
• From: Rasigan (@ ool-18bfa432.dyn.optonline.net) on: Fri Aug 30 16:18:50
  
  Kamal is a great actor. Y poke into other personel life. If you look like that then everybody has bad part. Not only cine actors even non-film people have bad part.
  
  Considering the films, Kamal is a gr8. Few people like 207.239.176.82 thinks, that they know everything and talk all shi1t on Kamal.
  
  They are mean people.
  
  

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