12 B WENT WRONG IN THE LAST SCENE !!!!
Topic started by alexmathew (@ 203.197.150.66) on Mon Oct 8 13:35:13 .
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Dear friends,
I felt the movie 12B to be a very different film ,as the theme seems to be a quite new and interesting one . The film makes us think how much our lives change as a result of very small incidents ,or our momentary thoughts which we neglect in our day to day life .
But , the last scene of the film creates a confusion . note that nowhere in the film , the two possible incidents cross or the two heroines meet .But,the director went wrong in the last scene by allowing the two possibilities to cross.
In the last shot, he showed one shyam (who missed the bus) running after Jyothika and at the same time simran crossing him crying after the death of the other shyam( who got the bus) . This is not at all logical b'coz if one happened , the other possibility can't happen . He should have avoided the shot of simran's breaking down in the last scene , showing the story of shyam who missed the bus as the one that actually happened.
Again , syam sees simran at the beginning of the film as a person who lost some of her dear ones ( not made clear at the beginning, we assume that it may be her husband ), but later in the last shot we see that the dead person was shyam himself. note that a person can't die two times . The director should have shown simran at the beginning just as a normal girl in the institution , rather than showing her as a desperate girl , pondering over her memories of her dear one.
yet, the film stands apart from the usual stuff ,such film projects sould be encouraged .
ur valuable comments are most welcome..
Responses:
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Mon Oct 8 15:42:34
alex mathew u understood the story wrongly...
- From: Raghu (@ 164.164.79.36)
on: Tue Oct 9 06:34:03
Can u enlighten us,bharath ?I havent seen it yet but wud love to hear abt it so tht i can enjoy it fully.(thtz the way i watch films.)
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Tue Oct 9 09:58:23
well okay!
12B is straight out adaptation (blatant copy) of a movie called "Sliding doors" starring gweneyth paltrow.
in sliding doors gweneyth paltrow while returning from work runs to catch a train in Newyork subway station and at the moment when the door is closing and she is running towards it the story forks into 2 stories...
story 1: she catches the train goes home early and finds that her husband is having an affair with another woman
story 2: she misses the door and train and she catches the next train. and so is completely unaware of her husbands antiques....
story1 &2 go hand in hand.
in story1 she fights with her husband and she meets another man slowly becomes friends with him ( she meets him crying sadly in front of a hospital)...
in story 2 she lives with her husband and he still cheats her...
so finally in story 2 she meets with an accident and she is admitted to the hospital and she dies there... in the same hospital in front of the same room... the gwneyth paltrow of story 1 unites with her new found lover and walks away happily...
well.. jeeva has a good story to get inspired from.. i guess u need to see the film to understand what he is trying to say raghu.. this should be interesting i dont wanna spoil ur experience...
- From: Tamil Babe (@ rn251-65.resnet.uoguelph.ca)
on: Wed Oct 10 01:35:29
"yet, the film stands apart from the usual stuff ,such film projects sould be encouraged"
Instead of copying from English movies, original ideas should be encouraged.
- From: Sona (@ 210.186.194.52)
on: Wed Oct 10 02:46:50
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- From: Fiona Garu (@ ess-p-144-138-198-182.mega.tmns.net.au)
on: Wed Oct 10 04:24:24
Was the last comment the song from 12B?
And I agree the two ccharacters shouldn't have crossed. Because, I understood everything except that stupid last scene. So if ther characters hadn't have clashed, maybe we wouldnt be thinking about it as much, sort of the marking Jeeva wants to leave on the film
- From: Rames (@ 202.188.134.61)
on: Wed Oct 10 23:20:39
yet..it quite confused the viewers...especially..the elder viewers...but youngster like us......next time "Jeeva" have to direct a movie which can be viewed both generation....
- From: Rames (@ 202.188.134.61)
on: Wed Oct 10 23:21:33
*. correction = yet..it quite confused the viewers...especially..the elder viewers...but not youngster like us......next time "Jeeva" have to direct a movie which can be viewed both generation....
- From: Nisha (@ tp-70-234.tm.net.my)
on: Sat Oct 27 03:20:35
Hello ! I need Syams (the actor in 12B) address, contact no. @ email address ? Please reply... Thanks.
Regards,
Nisha
- From: ram (@ 210.210.35.17)
on: Sun Oct 28 11:29:45
In my opinion, this is an excellent movie and has a brilliant screenplay. But the story is very confusing. If it has been taken with double roles it would have been a super duper hit. Atleast if the two roles has been differentiated a little there will be less confusion.
- From: Richard (@ 202.188.134.61)
on: Tue Nov 6 22:10:38
Good try by director Jeeva...
- From: Arien (@ mcns88.docsis76.singa.pore.net)
on: Fri Nov 9 11:05:26
Actually, you were saying about the part where the Shaam who missed the bus running after Jothika and Simran crosses him crying and you said it was confusing. But we should change our mind sets. We should think it in a way asif Shaam(the one who missed the bus) would meet with an accident and later on will be chasing Jothika and there he would see Simran. At that scene we will have to think that Shaam(who missed the bus) would see Simran cry and he would think that it was some other person who passed away. We should forget the thought about Shaam(the one who got the bus) at that particular scence. So, you actually have to be switching mind sets. You know what I mean.. Well, I hope you get to understand the story... :)
- From: Kanagaraj Krishna (@ 161.139.66.13)
on: Sat Nov 10 09:11:29
This is from my point of view. The movie was different from normal masala's. The last part where Simran runs out is not for Sham(who took the bus) but her mother is the one who is dead. In few parts she will be saying that her mother is in the hospital sick. If the director could have made a more tight screenplay (most probably lost it because of the length of the movie) then this movie could have been a better one.
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