Topic started by Nane than (@ 203.197.138.194) on Fri May 23 02:06:43 .
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I think right now b'se of his home production "naladamayanthi", he is supporting madhavan only..

Whether that is the only reason?

Though vikram acting is better than madhavan, why kamal keeps on supporting madhavan?

I beleive in many reviews of Kasi, reviewers praised vikram that he has beaten kamal itself when compared to his blind role in Rajapaarvai..Whether that could be the reason. ?

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• From: kdot (@ ppp-219.65.112.249.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon May 26 06:06:56 EDT 2003
  
  well,this is what i meant -an actor can be called as a good actor not only by his ability to do different roles,versatility but also by how realistically he can perform that role. Vikram has a dravidian face. he can do a villager role easily but it is not in the case of Madhavan. his face will never suit him to be a villager.so,any definitions about good acting must be made not only of the actors versatility but also how realistic his acting looks. reg. kamal,i dont agree that kamal became a good actor only by doing different roles. infact , his best acting performance is from the movie "MAHANADHI". why i rate kamal very high is only due to the following reason:
  he is versatile as well as realistic. he is very few among the actors who has this capacity.
  
  actors like Boman Irani (LET'S TALK, everybody says im fine, and theatre plays like Gandhi vs Gandhi) is a very very brilliant actor,one of the best in the country.but,he cannot be a versatile actor-he cannot do different roles. but that doesnt make him a no less actor.
  
  similarly Madhavan may not be versatile,but he is a very realistic actor. and he has a penchant for
  good films and so kamal naturally liked him.incase of vikram,he is now inclined towards heriosm and spoiling tfm. im sure he could be praised sky high after the release of "pithamagan" ,but people dont realise the damage caused to other movies like "Anbe sivam" which suffered due to the release of "dhool" and another good movie-"punnAGAI POOVE" which was badly hit due to "saamy". this is total crapppppppp.
  
  reg "citizen",i never said it is a good movie.but ,dont u remember that at that time it was considered as a brave attempt. kamal always supports "good attempts".and he never helped in the script. only in the makeup he helped. and i dont think the makeup was that bad expect for that "old man" role.so,why kamal is not supporting vikram?? i dont know. but tell me "why should kamal support vikram who is now doing crap movies and thinks he found a new formula --kamal+rajini---and all bull. reg. vikrams talent i guess kamal will have great respect ,but not for his present films.
  PERIOD.
  
  
• From: Kajan (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Mon May 26 06:15:21 EDT 2003
  
  Nanethan,
  
  I don't supprt any actor including madhavn, and I am not fan of any artist.
  
  U don't get my point described by word 'category'. I can give u better explanation but I will be late for my work.
  
  So have nice time
  
  
• From: kdot (@ ppp-219.65.102.126.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon May 26 12:53:56 EDT 2003
  
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  kajan,
  
  i do find a difference.dhool,gemini ,from the day one when the director started to pen the screenplay,are made keeping only the boxoffice sucess and heroism and other masala crap. atleast "citizen",is a "wannabe-good-movie". it brought the real fishermen's story to limelight.also,technically the movie was better than the other craps. but,the movie was made badly.bad direction,bad editing etc... the story was very intresting atleast. but movies like dhool,gemini,saami ---these movies are planned masala-craps unlike citizen which turned out to be a bad movie.GOT IT?
  
  we must support different attempts.not necessarily good attempts suceed aesthetically as well as commercially. but when we ridicule these "good attempts" ,people will never have the guts to make such different movies. we exactly did this to "Aalavandaan".
  
  so,folks SUPPORT GOOD MOVIES. ALSO ,SUPPORT GOOD ATTEMPTS. THAT WILL DO!
  
  BYE FOR NOW.
  
  
• From: kdot (@ ppp-219.65.103.27.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon May 26 13:57:38 EDT 2003
  
  the above post was in response to this statement from kajan:
  "I can not find any diffent between films like citizen, dhool gemini etc. "
  
  
  
  
• From: real (@ vance003.net.gov.bc.ca) on: Mon May 26 15:15:58 EDT 2003
  
  the reason he supports madhavan is becuz hez simply better than that homo vickram
  
  
• From: diana (@ fplanet.singnet.com.sg) on: Mon May 26 20:27:20 EDT 2003
  
  well i think kamal goes for looks than acting skills
  kamal is a white pig which has grown old. kamal fans no hard feelings
  
  
• From: Dhanya (@ 202.9.180.143) on: Tue May 27 02:59:59 EDT 2003
  
  Well...I found this caption on a tamil website
  "Rajni praises Vikram"
  Now...think of wht Nanethan said....Can we say tht Rajni shud have said Madhavan & Vikram are good???Not possible.Coz it was a Vikram movie tht he saw...so obviously he praised Vikram.
  Thts somewht similar to Kamal's case.It was Naladamayanthi's press release... & Like any other producer,Kamal praised Madhavan who was the hero of his film.He was juz reacting to the situation.So when Kamal happens to do a film with Vikram...he wud obviosly praise him as well...
  
  And abt Ajith....I never liked him...so I wasnt offended
  
  And Diana...if Im not mistaken...I think Vikram is Fairer than Madhavan
  
  
• From: Kajan (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Tue May 27 09:03:20 EDT 2003
  
  kdot,
  
  support in this forum does not make any impact.
  
  
• From: kdot (@ ppp-219.65.112.108.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Tue May 27 11:23:43 EDT 2003
  
  what do u mean???? do u mean i support movies only in this forum and i dont see good movies?? dont make sweeping statements.
  
  
• From: Kajan (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Tue May 27 14:28:35 EDT 2003
  
  kdot,
  My previous posting not what u r doing but what i don't do for support. So it's not sweeping statement!!!!!!!!!
  
  I wrote that way, as u have said in response to my posting. when ppl talk about good movies here ( forum ) it makes unwanted fighting for silly reasons. That is my point.
  
  I don't say u support movies only in this forum and don't c good movies!
  
  it is unwanted to write about ur activites here.
  
  at last,
  don't u know the in-depth meaning ( bad one ) of "sweeping statement" So please don't use it again.
  
  have a nice time.
  
  
• From: real (@ vance003.net.gov.bc.ca) on: Tue May 27 15:03:54 EDT 2003
  
  vickram is a homo
  
  
• From: cinema goer (@ 61.11.77.237) on: Fri Jun 6 08:12:00 EDT 2003
  
  Some one wrote abt Vikram doing the so called "craap" movies like GEMINI, DHOOL, SAAMY etc. We must understand one thing. In Tamil moviedom, an actor's status is ranked by the number of hit movies he had given. A hero has to establish himself commercially first by giving as many hits as possible. That's possible only thro' masala movies. That's why even the (now) great actor Kamal acted in movies like "savaal", "Guru","Sakalakalavallavan", etc in his early days which are pakka masala movies. Can any one say that the above said movies are better or worse than Vikram's DHOOL, SAAMY, GEMINI etc.?
  No! because they all belong to the same genre and necessary for an upcoming actor. After getting established, Vikram may also do artististic value movies like kamal's "Nayagan" etc.
  
  
• From: Nane than (@ 203.197.138.194) on: Sat Jun 7 07:05:58 EDT 2003
  
  cinema goer,
  well said.
  
  
• From: Nane than (@ 203.197.138.194) on: Mon Jun 9 00:30:33 EDT 2003
  
  Kamal vs Vikram,
  http://www.webulagam.com/cinema/vip/0306/07/1030607021_1.htm
  
  
• From: Nane than (@ 203.197.138.194) on: Mon Jun 9 07:06:02 EDT 2003
  
  Here's Vikram Interview on the latest vikatan issue
  
  http://www.vikatan.com/av/2003/jun/15062003/av0503.shtml
  
  
• From: r.karthikkeyan (@ 202.9.176.167) on: Thu Jun 12 11:23:23 EDT 2003
  
  well,vikram has splendid talent.nowa days people dont look for really good stories if a movie has good songs,comedy track,and a very fine untiring screenplay with good dance numbers ,the movie is a hit.you cant call it as "craap".rajini's history of past 15 years,he had given full and full masala movies giving himself a supermacho impression.thats what every upcoming actor would like to establish himself.but vikram will do good roles.pithamagan is going to be an off-beat film and that will give you a fitting answer
  kamal will not back vikram as he is a non-brahmin.madhavan is in his good books because he is a brahmin.kamal usually supports brahmins only as it is evident in his star cast in his every film.i am not against brahmins as i am myself a brahmin
  
  
• From: anoop (@ ae11875.emirates.net.ae) on: Sat May 15 03:50:03
  
  None can do good roles as if vikram do . kamal is jealous bacause he do not like any one to do roles as if he had done
  
  
• From: review (@ cache130.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Sat May 15 05:22:07 EDT 2004
  
  why should kamal "back" Vikaram?
  Does Vikram not have any talent of his own?
  
  Please remember kaakka Radhakrishnan and Nagesh.
  These two forgotten artistes got a second chance in films because of kamal. And now Pasupathy of Virumaandi fame has become a big star.
  
  Johnny Walker, the veteran comedian of yesteryears who was in abject poverty was re-introduced to the Hindi audiences because of the large-heartedness of kamalHaasan in Ladies Only.Johnny Walker gave a very grateful interview in film fare.
  
  Kamal has been a trend setter and pioneer in Tamil movies. As an example, the Mani Rathnam- Kamal combo raised the standards of tamil films by quite a lot.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: rajini raja (@ 203.106.199.107) on: Sat May 15 08:10:26 EDT 2004
  
  kamal doesn't support vikram because he copies rajini's way of acting
  
  
• From: Radha (@ 61.2.66.144) on: Sun May 16 11:30:17 EDT 2004
  
  Hi Nanethan,
  What Hell u r talking?
  
  Always KAMAL only a Top Hero. No one can comapare with Him.
  
  In future some one come near to him. But No chance
  to beat him. Surya and Madhavan have a chance to come near to him. Here I am not include Vikram Because Now he is
  around 43 years old.
  
  When kamal was 27 years old, He was Super star in India. In hindi(Ek duje Ke liye-175 days -1981) In Telugu(Saagara sangamam-175 days,
  Marocharithra-500 days)were super duper hit Movies. He got Nationl Award in 29 years old(Moonrm Birai-1983).So CUrrent heroes
  (All are already crossed 30 yrs)and futrue heroes have no chance to beat Kamal.
  
  
• From: kamalfan (@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net) on: Mon May 31 00:57:19
  
  All the talk of kamal supporting madhavan only because he is a brahmin is all crap. In fact, if U see kamal's movies, though many of his co-artists/technicians are brahmins (crazy mohan, ramesh arvind, delhi ganesh etc), he shows brahmins in very poor light. A classic example is Avvai shanmughi. Another is madanbob's role in thevar magan. The list goes on...
  
  The reason for him not liking is, (as Anoop rightly said),he is jealous because people have started comparing him with kamal & praising his performances in kasi, pithamagan etc.Also, Vikram has said that his favourite hero is rajini,which might have irked kamal. Kamal supports heroes like surya, madhavan etc., because they have gone on record saying that they are die hard fans of kamal.
  But the fact is irrespective of whether kamal supports viram or not, vikram still has a long way to go before he can be compared to kamal.
  
  

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