mahanadhi vs anbe sivam
Topic started by jaypee (@ 202.88.169.27) on Tue Feb 25 08:19:48 .
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Both these movies are kamal starrer.Whereas mahanadhi was a movie wherein it said the problems in the society and how a good person gets succumbed to that, anbe sivam is a movie wherein the good wins over evil by love.
Responses:
- From: cinewellwisher (@ ppp-219.65.118.65.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sun Mar 2 01:03:11
Mahanadhi is much better than anbe sivam.
- From: viko (@ cache7.156ce.scvmaxonline.com.sg)
on: Sun Mar 2 07:39:09
Mahanadhi had less masala than anbe sivam
i could watch AS easily
but not Mahanadhi
as it is very very sad story
it's very difffcult to chose between
but i woulg go 4 mahanidi as it has less masala
- From: jaypee (@ 202.88.169.27)
on: Mon Mar 3 00:00:00
but the sad part once u watch mahanadhi and cm out u hv a very heavy feeling in ur heart and feel that being good is not right whereas anbe sivam makes u feel happy.that is the greatness of this movie
- From: ash (@ cs662553-101.houston.rr.com)
on: Mon Mar 3 22:46:58
Mahanadi did not have a big message, except that "Dont say yes when to want to say no". Anbe sivam did have a great message.
- From: jaypee (@ 202.88.169.27)
on: Mon Mar 3 23:36:00
mahanadhi carried lot of views if u see the movie intensely and follow all the dialogues but didnt carry the message thro' out and essentially in the climax
- From: cinewellwisher (@ ppp-219.65.118.108.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Thu Mar 6 12:00:53
A movie's work is not giving messages or advising the viewers,it is an art ,and it should be based on a theme,and if it can move you to tears or if it can make feel happy when the screen has same mood,then that's where the success of the film maker lies,in that context 'anbe.. has considerable amount of distractions(romance and some silly capper comedies involving madhavan)but Mahanadhi stands way ahead,as its narration was far more authentic,realistic and mesmerising.
- From: Prabhu Ram (@ )
on: Tue Sep 2 12:43:33
Mahanadhi is among the best scripts ever written for the screen.Its subtleties clearly outstrip any movie Kamal has ever written.Hey Ram! looks bigger because of the canvas and it would be kind to spare Anbe Sivam away from comparison.
- From: Kavitha (@ 131.107.3.79)
on: Tue Sep 2 15:40:57 EDT 2003
Both Mahanadhi & Anbe Sivam are Art films.
Both these movies of very high quality. But I like Mahanadhi better than Anbe Sivam becasue Mahanadhi was very subtle & realistic. I mean Mahandhi represnets the life of a avberage Indian middle class man. If u are an Indian living in India, u can very easily relate yourself to the stuations that happens through out Mahandahi. I think the script & screen-play for this movie was flawless!
- From: Kavitha (@ 131.107.3.79)
on: Tue Sep 2 15:44:58 EDT 2003
2 Stuuning scenes in Mahanadhi:
1. When Kamal comes out of the ChIt fund company and comes out in front of the investores. The angry ppl demandng their money back throw Kamal!
2. The scene where Kamal rescues his teenage daughter from the Calcutta Brothel
Wow! These are really stand out performances! Kamal is awesome!
- From: truth (@ 61.11.76.68)
on: Tue Sep 2 23:13:23 EDT 2003
Mahaanadhi is not an eligible family film but it was watched and appreciated by families!
Well, Anbe sivam is a world class social movie(both in concept and presentation). It should be watched by every family, but have been watched by not even 1 family!
(I mean the commercial reach is very less)
- From: Nane than (@ 203.197.138.194)
on: Wed Sep 3 00:17:51 EDT 2003
Mahanadhi is THE BEST
- From: Prabhu Ram (@ 202.54.18.155)
on: Wed Sep 3 03:03:45 EDT 2003
To Jaypee,
Though it is downright vulgar to judge a movie w.r.t its message content rather than presentation ,your accusation that Mahanadhi does not have a message is baseless.
The recurrent theme of the purity of kaveri, the vileness of Cooum which represents the social apathy (as showcased by Krishnaswamy's conversation with Panjabakesan on Napiers Bridge),and lastly the stupidness of the hope that a new change is possible from outside ("Indha Ganga Nadhiyai Paarka Paarka Unmai Vilanguthu.....Ingu Kulikkum Manithar Paavam thannil Gangai kalanguthu.......Indha Muttaalthanathhai enge solli nanum azhuvathu?")is the message of the movie.
The fundamental question is :are we going to be complaining Panchapakesans or do we have it in us to be prepared to lose a part of ourselves(symbolized by Krishnaswamy severing his arm) in the struggle for social rectitude.
- From: TRUTH (@ 61.11.81.16)
on: Wed Sep 3 07:36:33 EDT 2003
Even I saw mahanadhi many times, the HIGHLY RICH fact, linking a man's life with Cauvery, Coouvam and Ganges didnt strike me.Thanks PrabhuRaam, now the genius inside the Kamal haasan and prabhuram, is clearly visible....The connection between the title and film is nowadays decreasing,...kamal gives more appropriate title...
Similarly, in Anbe sivam, inspite of the fact that the title is the message of the story, there is another meaning.
name of maddy: Anbarasu
name of Kamal: Nallasivam
So Mr.Anbarasu likes Mr.Nallasivam, thats Anbe Sivam, wow superb!
- From: Prabhu Ram (@ 202.54.18.155)
on: Wed Sep 3 11:55:12 EDT 2003
Dear TRUTH,
i request u to not mention kamal and myself in one breath.Its just that mahanadhi is one of my all time favourites.Since u brought up the topic names, consider this:
The hero is Krishna,his daughter is kaveri, his son is barani,his dead wife is narmada ,his mother in law is godavari,his fiance is yamuna and her father is Panjabi!!
This effort shows the utmost care kamal takes when writing a script.That's why I feel insulted when I see a bad movie with a lousy screenplay.
- From: Shakthi (@ 203-195-199-244.now-india.net.in)
on: Wed Sep 3 12:28:19 EDT 2003
prabhuram,
the names of characters in mahanadhi....NAMES OF ALL MAHANADHIGAL...hence mahanadhi...THX, for throwing the light on obvious factors, which would have gone unnoticed.
KAMAL IS GENIUS. No doubt at all.
- From: Kavitha (@ 131.107.3.79)
on: Wed Sep 3 16:21:01 EDT 2003
Mahanadhi is a class act. This movie was so different.
Apart from Kamal's stellar peformance, it's the flawless script & screen-play of Kamal that has set very high standards for this movie. This movie stunningly doesn't include any commercial ingredients of a normal Tamil movie.
- From: Thiyagarajan (@ proxy1.iitm.ac.in)
on: Sat Apr 17 02:26:58
Thanks a lot Praphuram for having understood Kamal's efforts while many don't understand &apprciate.
here, i wouldlike to make a small correction, his dead wife is ganga and his mother in law is saraswathi(name of a river at triveni sangamam).
In anbe sivam u can notice one thing, in the climax, Anbarasu(madhavan) marries bala(kiran), lover of Sivam(kamal). sivam is replaced by anbu, i.e anbe sivam.
regards
Thiyaga.
- From: suresh (@ 61.95.227.149)
on: Sat Apr 17 07:11:44 EDT 2004
:-)
AHA... good interpretations, prabhuram and thiyagarajan... really good.
any similar interpretaions for virumaandi ? ( i could not remember right now )
:-)
- From: Madhu (@ lan-202-144-61-145.maa.sify.net)
on: Mon Apr 19 08:07:30 EDT 2004
Mahanadhi is one movie which i don't want to see again. It is because it has affected me so much.
- From: Madhu (@ lan-202-144-61-145.maa.sify.net)
on: Mon Apr 19 08:12:09 EDT 2004
The scene where his daughter is shown last in the movie before Kamal comes to know that she is not to be found..... The very fact that the scenes are not explicitly shown and the viewer is made to understand what is happening behind the scenes .... Leaving it to the imagination of the viewer...... It wrenches one's heart.
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.202.45)
on: Mon Apr 19 09:58:18 EDT 2004
Good analysis.It's great to see ppl remembering 'Mahanadhi',the great work from Kamal,but as an auteur,the man is yet to replicate that authentic magic.What's going to be great abt 'Krishaleelas',can't Kamal invest his enery in meaningful works like 'Mahandhi',somehow i feel 'anbe sivam' was largely preachy and looked like a sort of celluloid 'Moral science' lesson,that too filled with fights,romance etc.When Anbe.. talks Mahandhi opens one's heart straightly,Mahandhi wins on any given day.
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.19)
on: Mon Apr 19 13:44:31 EDT 2004
Some typos in my last post,expecting ppl's tolerance levels to be high :-)
- From: kamalfan (@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net)
on: Tue May 18 08:37:24
Mahanadi is no doubt a good film, but kamal i obsessed with :
1. His anti-brahmin stance (thro' poornam's character).
2. His depiction of violence.
3. Lip to lip kissing (totally unnecessary)
The problem with kamal is he takes it to the extreme. His obsession for kissing has also marred the film.Many of kamal's great films have fallen short of greatness because of such obsessions.
Anbe Sivam thankfully was free of those. If only, his films has less of violence (& kissing) & his penchant for dominating every single frame, he would be much more successful.
The reason for his many such films (mahanadi, guna, anbe sivam etc) flopping is because of his narcissist attitude.He needs to work on scripts done by others (rather than by himself).
Yugi Sethu even mentioned in a kumudam interview, the fact that kamal is a mediocre script writer.
- From: Baba (@ 203.76.163.3)
on: Tue May 18 08:57:58 EDT 2004
kamalfan(@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net) You were raising some arguments in KAMAL'S DUAL HERO and suddenly dissapeared after PRABHU teamed up in his latest moive.
You initially argued that PRABHU regretted being a co-star of KAMAL and vow not to do any films with him in the future.
Now you are pulling other issues here.....
- From: Baba (@ 203.76.163.3)
on: Tue May 18 08:59:03 EDT 2004
http://www.forumhub.com/tfilms/16929.10.30.51.html
Just to remind you the path if you have forgotten
- From: kamalfan (@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net)
on: Tue May 18 10:21:44 EDT 2004
I am speaking relevant to the topic. Here the topic is about Mahanadi.
Even now, I maintain my remarks on prabhu. Wait & see if he does act with kamal. If he does, as I said, either he has no films (or) he is plain stupid (only God can save him).
I still stand by my comments.
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