Kamal's experimental ventures !! but????
Topic started by kamalpriyan (@ 208.10.65.130) on Fri Jan 31 18:11:06 .
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Howlong a person will make experimental ventures but resulting in vain? Can't be a person to get back to basics and atleast look forward for people what exactly they are expecting?
If we look at Heyram, Mahanadhi, Guna, Nammavar, Kalaignan,Alavandan Now Anbe Sivam !!! Approva sahodharargal, Indian, Avvai Shanmugi, Devarmagan & Kurudhi punal were great hits just because of the perfect blend of good screen play, songs and comedies in right mix.
When it is comedy, it is over dosage like pammal k sammandam, kadhala kadhala and Panchathanthiram?
Why dont he try movies like Dhil or Run with
fast pased screen play with a decent character role like indian thatha or avvai shanmugi patti..
He will have his market atleast for another 4 years which he should make the best use of it rather than giving boring movies .. though anbesivam could be termed as master piece, except
kamal's acting, no attractive items are there in the movie atleast to watch for the second time.
even ist time itself will be of tiresone.
Am i correct ??? share your thoughts guys?
I am sincere fan of super actor kamal since 1983.
luv
kamal priyan
Responses:
- From: ravi (@ cpe0080c6eecc8f-cm400045939007.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Fri Jan 31 19:28:58
I totaly agree. This man has acted and produced woderfull movies. Now he is giving some overdose again He is not listening to the directors and story writers .
- From: truth (@ cache210.156ce.scvmaxonline.com.sg)
on: Fri Jan 31 21:29:54
Anbe Sivam is a very good movie i just don't understand why people like u fail to appericate this kind of movie.Kamal is a versatile actor,Its extremely diffcult to make diffcult subjects for the tamil audience to accept it.
For me i've seen the movie 3 times and i think its worth watching another time.
- From: Jose (@ 203.145.161.30)
on: Fri Jan 31 23:43:22
I think many people in India are hypocrites. When formula films releases they tell that no one is making good quality films, there is nothing new in the story, same masala and nothing new to offer. But when a movie like Anbe Sivam releases, they say the opposite that there is no commercial elements in the film, the common man cannot understand the plot etc. etc. It is really a sad state of affairs that films like Dhool are declared blockbusters which has nothing new to offer, only the same dance, fights and headache to the viewers against a movie like Anbe Sivam which is a fresh, sincere attempt by a legend of Indian cinema. The film portraying a strong message when we have communal tensions in every part of the country is rejected by a majority of the audience. We may be forced to see Kamal do a film like Dhool just for sheer box office success.
- From: Kajan (@ wc05.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Fri Jan 31 23:53:58
Jose,
Totally agree with you. I am really sad of AS's status.
- From: vijay (@ 61.11.81.29)
on: Fri Jan 31 23:56:40
After all, Anbe sivam is the Film which has 2 types of people ,
1.some are telling that film should do well, it is deserved to be a hit
2.another group telling that the film is superb but has no commercial value, so kamal should change.
But it show that all are accepting it as good film.Rediff blasted the movie, due to this it gor lot and lot of offenses from its resders such that it tookout the feedback posting itself.This has not happenned to any movie and it shows its sucess.Even boxoffice is poor some places, this film has got a name to kamal, which he hadnot got from any movies.thats enough.
- From: vijay (@ 61.11.81.29)
on: Sat Feb 1 00:03:05
not only tamil printed edition books, also the online magazines reviewed anbesivam in first week itself.The film has not crossed even one month, all sorts of discussions have took place in all media like, tv, magazines, forums ect abt anbe sivam.it only shows the sucess of movie. Also its doing well in abroad, and decently well in metroes.Audio is also doing well.No more to tell, the movie's quality is great, whats more needed?
- From: Kamal priyan (@ 66.143.53.73)
on: Sat Feb 1 00:32:57
I dont say that the movie is bad or something like that. All i feel that a movie which was well crafted is not being accepted by the common public. Lot of reports say that the movie is colossal flop and kamal even gave back 2 crores back to the producer because of teh poor collections. what i say is why dont kamal take care of those real expectations from common people.
It looks like he take movies of his thoughts which is not at all accecptable by common man which is happening since 1991. From Guna, Mahanadhi,Nammavar, Alavandan, Anbe sivam along with some so called comedies kadhala kadhala,
pammal k sammandam,panchathanthiram, etc etc.
being a top class actor, Is it wise to give a movie which should be acceptable by common man.
He is in tamil nadu with 200 movies experience.
why not he understand the taste of the public
and give the quality of the movie accordinly,
i dont say that the movie should be for C class.
But atleast, it should be a movie with good ingredients and whatevet message he tries to give should be given in lighter vain and should reach the common man.
Most people are frustrated with kamal because of his over dosage of anything either it is comedy, or serious or violance or pathos.
- From: DE (@ 210.195.72.251)
on: Sat Feb 1 08:00:51
ANBE SIVAM IS BEST SOUTH INDIAN FILM
- From: Priyamudan (@ pcp02631545pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net)
on: Sat Feb 1 10:35:28
Kamal priyan
//He is in tamil nadu with 200 movies experience.
why not he understand the taste of the public
and give the quality of the movie accordinly//
It is almost impossible to find out the taste of the public exactly. Even movies of steven speilberg flops in hollywood. I do not agree with the fact that anbe sivam has bad screen play. Because if you understand the movie well and if you are involved in the movie then you may find it interesting. I have seen movie once and willing to see it again soon. Our tamil people's taste getting worse day by day. Now it looks like it is going to become almost impossible to produce quality movies in this state. I think our people are not ready for quality movies like Hey ram and anbe sivam.
- From: Sweet Nothing (@ 202.41.106.101)
on: Sat Feb 1 11:52:35
Kamal would do well to look at "Thevar Magan." According to me, that film comes closest to a terrific good film which also became a megahit blockbuster.
The point is why can't he give films like that? It had a strong message against pointless violence nicely mixed with the so-called commercial elements like fight, romance, etc.. At the end, the message sunk into the sudience nicely and the film was appreciated as a quality output. Nobody ever commented on the commercialisation of the film. It was so naturally woven into the script.
All this talk in blaming Tamil audience's taste becoming worse is only trying to pass the buck and shirk the responsibility. Sethu, Azhagi and even Kaasi succeeded at the box office. Don't talk only about the success of masala films as if only they are becoming hits.
My comment is that whatever said and done, Kamalhaasan is a great actor, but not the best when it comes to donning the director's cap or the writer's pen. His recent hit films have all been with creative directors like Barathan, Baalu Mahendra, Shankar, KSR. (I am including KSR for Thenali - He may not be highly creative, but knows the audience's pulse) Include ManiRatnam for Nayakan, even though it is quite old.
Directors like SundarC, SureshKrishna, Mouli or even Kamalhasan as the director himself with scripts he himself writes are not succeeding. Kamal should think about this and analyse what is going wrong.
I am saying that he has evolved into a director's artist. He is as good as the director. So, go to the best directors.
I am not against experimenting. Just do it with the right people supporting you. Don't become too obsessed with yourself.
I am in no way attempting to downplay the contributions of Kamalhasan to the Tamil film field. His intentions are all good, but the way he practises them are not. I only want him to stay longer in the field to help the field improve it's quality.
- From: truth (@ cache210.156ce.scvmaxonline.com.sg)
on: Sat Feb 1 12:08:30
Sethu succeded its cos of a love theme.Kaasi is a flop just for ur info sweet nothing
- From: Sweet Nothing (@ 202.41.106.101)
on: Sat Feb 1 12:15:54
No, Kaasi is not a flop. It was more than a decent success. In every profile of Vikram, you can see Kaasi as one of his good hits.
And what is meant by Sethu succeeded because of a love theme.?? I hope you're not saying that all love themes will succeed irrespective of performances or treatment or screenplay.?
- From: Rudra (@ adsl-61-70-248.rdu.bellsouth.net)
on: Sat Feb 1 13:18:52
Just a correction here - Suresh Krishna's Sathya was an awesome movie. Infact Kamal's role along with his friends as unemployed graduates getting into a political mess was very well depicted. Infact everyone in the movie had done well eg. Vadivikarrasi as his step-mom, Bahadur as his dad, Janakaraj, Rajesh etc.
Aalavandhan was by Kamal fully. Suresh Krishna just lent his name I would think(like Sundar C in AnbeSivam).
- From: kdot (@ ppp-219.65.103.10.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sun Feb 2 00:57:41
folk,
kamal is a proven sucess in tf industry. he need not prove his sucess again and again. he experiments and we have to look whether he suceeds in those experiments.
for me "aalavandaan" is a failure ,speaking in terems of cinematic values,but "hey ram" and "anbe sivam" are major sucesses,
it is well and good if he suceeds in these ventures too, to jus ensure that he doesnt go back to his old formula.
i happened to listen to kamals speech in the book fair conducted recently.he spoke very colloquially,unlike what he does in television speeches.
when a person asked "if u do films like aboorva sahothargal,then we r ready to watch" and kamal said that "i cannot do appu again.neenga thaanae si enna keduthu vechirekenga. kamalhaasans?? romba vidyasam seyvar neenga thaanae sir soneenga? appo ,thirupiym, appu maathiri kdunganu sonna eppidi?"
he looked very dejected. he also said" nalla padangla eppidi support pannuringalo, athae maathiri ketta padangalai theliva niragarikanum".
but what made sad is this sentence .he said,"dont u think 25 years is such a long time?".i felt very sorry for him.i still think ppl and the media too are disappointing him a bit too much.
- From: Eashwar (@ 203.145.161.77)
on: Sun Feb 2 01:01:01
Sweetinfo, Kaasi was a hit becoz of the budget. It was made in less than 3 crores. Anbe Sivam is made on a budget of 12 crores and it has collected only 8 crores. so it is declared a flop. Moreover Kamal and Rajini movies have to make double the money of their investment to be declared a hit.
- From: battlefield of earth (@ 219.92.197.80)
on: Sun Feb 2 03:36:53
y u all bothering so much about this anbe sivam
one kind of typical kamal movie with al ot of boring stuff inside ...................
of course will flop and go back to the tin where the movie came....
kamal-end of his era/career
- From: truth (@ cache210.156ce.scvmaxonline.com.sg)
on: Sun Feb 2 05:56:49
Yes In terms of that Kaasi is a hit cos its a low buget movie but kaasi fail to reach 100days.Anbe Sivam is made for 12crores but the movie will alomst certainly hit 100days or more but will it recover the cost.Aalavanthan ran for 125days but was deem a failure cos it never recovered the cost.
- From: battlefield of earth (@ 219.92.197.20)
on: Sun Feb 2 09:31:03
kamal should go for low budget movies..at least to make sure it is profitable for distributor n everyone deal with his movie
- From: Sivaraj (@ espeed17-132.brunet.bn)
on: Wed Feb 12 07:33:19
Kamal done a good job in Anbe Sivam. If all the tamil movie produce in terms of masala base then it won't be any quality movie. At least we got Kamal to bring out some quality in the tamil cinema.
- From: kooththan (@ mail1.pmc-vacc.com)
on: Thu Feb 13 15:57:28
Sweet Nothing,
If you love Devar Mahan sooo much why don't you just go watch it again?, instead of asking Kamal to make another movie just like it?
Your argument that Kamal is not good with his pen flies in the face of your argument that Devar Magan was an excellent movie. Kamal penned Devar Magan.
- From: elangkovan kumarasamy (@ pdns.cisco.com.sg)
on: Sun Apr 6 05:06:13
Hi Guys, Kamal is THE Actor. No point giving masala flims for the sake of audiance who has poor taste. Look at Anbe Sivam a superb flim no one has yet to give one such performance except for Kamal.
- From: cinegoer (@ sbproxy3.mystarhub.com.sg)
on: Sun Apr 6 10:45:18
The answer for the initial question is .....
There are any number of Vikrams Vijays Suryas Ajiths etc etc to do 'normal' movies like Dhil Dhool, Youth, April Madathil etc etc....
But only a kamal can do a Nayagan, Aboorva Sagodarargal, Salangai Oli,Michael Madana kamaraajan etc etc....
For sheer quality, Kamal rarely dissappoints.....
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