Topic started by Krishna (@ 202.153.41.183) on Fri Dec 20 05:51:13 .
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Is there a resemblence between Agnikula & Vanniyakula Kshatriya. If so, how?

Agnikula Kshatriya is referred to in Andhra Pradesh, and the equivalent of the same is considered to be Vanniyakula Kshatriya in Tamil Nadu.

But unlike Vanniyakula Kshatriya in Tamil Nadu, who I have heard that recently they have been included on the Schedule Tribes (ST), Agnikula Kshatriya in AP are included in OBC.

Could anymore help be out in understanding more about this?

Responses:

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• From: Vadivel (@ 210.18.114.3.sify.net) on: Tue Oct 26 17:14:06 EDT 2004
  
  Dear vanniyar friends,
  
  I am searching for a vanniyar bride for my marriage.Could you people help me to find vanniyar community sangam phone numbers or vanniyar matrimony sangam phone numbers.
  I am living in south tamilnadu..here i am not able to find vanniyar people.
  
  Pl. help me.
  
  Anbudan
  Vadivel
  
  
• From: senthamarai (@ 61.95.231.51) on: Wed Oct 27 02:53:03 EDT 2004
  
  I find a lot of talk about BC,MBC etc.I think u guys should be given ST status which you definetely deserve.
  So go on and further worsen the state of tamilnadu even more.And please don't talk about people like Ramadoss.He's a disgrace.Nice piece of history though u guys have.Tracing back to the Rajputs or the Pallavas or whatever.
  Grow up man/
  
  
• From: karthikeya (@ dialpool-210-214-44-28.maa.sify.net) on: Wed Oct 27 23:39:16 EDT 2004
  
  forest is known as vanam in sanskrit. the name of the caste is VANYA KULA KSHATRIYA and not VANNIYA.
  VANNIYA is a tamilised form of vanya a la kirubanidhi(for kripanidhi) pirabakaran(for Prabhakaran) etc
  
  Vanyas are telugus.
  
  
• From: davie (@ meta114847.utep.edu) on: Tue Nov 2 18:22:57 EST 2004
  
  even in VEDHAS CASTE IS TO BE ASSUMED ONLY BASED ON CHARACTER. NOT BY BIRTH
  so even in olden days they were more united and equal.
  
  so it justifies my thinking that some sect of the community like thieves were assumed the lowest class.
  check back for more information!!!!!!!
  
  http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda
  
  
• From: butchi babu.Lankada (@ ppp50-125.dsl-vzg.eth.net) on: Sat Nov 6 02:36:00 EST 2004
  
  Hi all agnikulakshtriyas,
  
  We dont care about all these things. We know we are the kings and the blood in our bodies is kings blood.
  
  I want to start agnikulakshtriyas.com web site, if u want to support me pls mail me.
  
  (Manam andharam kalasi thirigi mana poorva vaibhavam sadhiddaam
  
  
• From: vijajan (@ fw1.iib.ch) on: Sat Nov 6 14:44:56 EST 2004
  
  you are not only the warrior cast.devendrakulavellalar olso warrior castes according to the historical evidence.
  
  
• From: karthikeya (@ dialpool-210-214-48-247.maa.sify.net) on: Tue Nov 16 06:01:54 EST 2004
  
  congratulations Buchchi babu for your idea of starting a website.
  can you explain me the difference between agni kula and vanya kula(vanniyar) Kshatriiyas?
  
  Are Vanniyars living in Tamil nadu telugu kshatriyas?
  please clear my doubt
  
  
• From: Jaisinh (@ 203.124.130.204) on: Tue Nov 16 07:19:59 EST 2004
  
  Can any one of you is capable to see that the 5th descendants from you will not be cleaning the toilets of the other communities? There are many examples that many people are adopted by the families and they can't prove themselves to have pure family blood line. If you look in the back no one will be able to prove that he is from Good or bad family. Love matters gave birth to many kid which were thrown to the river then that proves that he was 'Karna'( The famous example from Mahabharata'. So don't go in detail and please do not throw mud at each other. You may be of a very high origin!
  Just follow the DHARMA and this will prove that you are of that stature.
  
  
• From: Jaisinh (@ 203.124.130.204) on: Tue Nov 16 07:21:08 EST 2004
  
  This is quite interesting that in finding the origin you are searching your superiority. I am from maharashtra so while all these discussions on the web I found that the 'Chitpavan Brahmins' related themselves to the Greeks. As you people know that there were knigs and knigdoms and many shudras turned to be the Brahmanas then why are you people proving your self superior to others? Who knows your origions exactly?
  
  
• From: davie (@ universi-bh1wsz) on: Wed Nov 17 17:40:59 EST 2004
  
  I have been repeating that all indians are of persian/mediterranean descent.
  and brahmins cannot call others some bad names, because brahmins are just a priests who should do prayers for kings/queens/soldiers/doctors/engineers etc.
  THEY ARE NOT AT ALL SUPERIOR
  and regarding indian race i have just oonly one explanation.
  they are persians/mediterraneans. i mean europeans. if ur dark its due to sun tanning and nothing else.
  I HATE THESE BRAHMINS STILL STICKING ON TO THE INDIAN IDEOLOGY.
  lol brahmins are servants for khstrias and shudras, they have to coook, do prayers for we non brahmins
  
  
• From: davie (@ universi-bh1wsz) on: Wed Nov 17 17:44:00 EST 2004
  
  its not searcing for superiority. lol its serching for facts. the facts accordingt to me are interesting, which will be a source for future websites and scientific journal papers in this issue which are far far powerful (i mean those journal papes talk for another million years) than this forumhub
  
  
• From: davie (@ universi-bh1wsz) on: Wed Nov 17 17:45:53 EST 2004
  
  shudras turned to be brahmins???
  ssee this brahmin fake supeiroty complex.
  
  shudras are business people. if u do business ur a shudra. if u are the king ur the khastria. if u are a doctor ur a vaishya.
  i dont want to see such lines agian
  
  
• From: davie (@ universi-bh1wsz) on: Thu Nov 18 05:57:34 EST 2004
  
  hell man this particular topic was never visible to my eyes. damn
  let me repeat this like a old tape recorder
  Shudras are business men
  Brahmins are priests
  Khastrias are warriors
  vaishyas are business men
  caste was not based on color
  south indian kings respected sanskrit and tamil equally
  different castes in india represent different groups.
  So called SC STs and categorization of castes was done while framing indian costitution. Brahmi9ns should not be rated as FC. They are not superior. Similarly vanniars should not be classified as SC. coz vanniars are just like any other caste in TN. These are errors while framing new indian constitution
  
  
• From: dav (@ d3d31421.utep.edu) on: Mon Nov 22 00:03:41 EST 2004
  
  lol as i told u people earlier, this indian cosntittion has hec a lot of errors
  
  
• From: dav (@ d3d31421.utep.edu) on: Mon Nov 22 00:03:48 EST 2004
  
  lol as i told u people earlier, this indian cosntittion has hec a lot of errors
  
  
• From: Karthikeyan (@ dsl-kk-150.54.101.203.touchtelindia.net) on: Sat Dec 11 01:57:13
  
  Vanniya kula Kshatriya ,My sire name Neelangiriyar
  from Chola Kingdom,My uncle is from Sambuvaraiyar
  family.Ya thats it we are from Ponniyin selvan family.Anybody with sire name Neelangiriar, mail
  me I like to find out our people spreaded in ancient times.And one thing Vanniyars are not from Telugu they have strong proof and evidences to insist that they are not immigrants.
  
  
  
• From: tony (@ dialup-4.234.111.204.dial1.miami1.level3.net) on: Sat Dec 11 15:56:51 EST 2004
  
  Dr.Davie:You are right. Brahmnins are not superior but inferior. They even cannot get a backward certificate. You got a backward certificate so that you could prove that you are superior.Braghmins are not even fighting to become backwards, that is how dumb they are while OBC want Most backward status and MBC want SC status.This proves that brahmins are inferior. ( paraphrased from writings of Tamil Ninja killi
  
  
• From: davie (@ cim-dell10.cim.utep.edu) on: Sun Dec 12 03:52:15 EST 2004
  
  Brahmins are inferior. No doubt in that.
  But i am trying to make u people understand that we thamizh people are proud to be thamil.
  You can just say what ever u want.
  Its no way gonna affect us. ( we dont care)
  Our generations will be proud of our ancient culture and heritage ( one among the best in the world)
  
  If i am dark, i am proud to be a dark guy.
  
  
• From: shiva deepak (@ 202.131.128.66) on: Thu Dec 16 08:21:45 EST 2004
  
  hey any one in agnikula/vennya kula
  
  iam looking for a bride in 21-25 ,in iam mba n working
  parrnets both r in govt sector (gazzeted cadre )
  iam the only son so plzz contact me if u r interested 09849631985(india) ap
  
  
• From: madras manathe (@ dialpool-210-214-27-167.maa.sify.net) on: Tue Dec 21 01:02:51 EST 2004
  
  Agni kula and Vanya kula Lshatriyas are both Telugus
  
  
• From: siva (@ 61.1.205.132) on: Mon Dec 27 13:57:07 EST 2004
  
  Hi all Vanniyar friends.....
  
  It is so intersting learning many things in this site.
  
  We are looking a groom for our sister. do contact
  
  09443402821
  
  

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