Topic started by Srini (@ 203.197.239.1) on Fri Jul 19 05:15:00 .
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Dear Friends:

The title of this thread is not framed out of any frustration/ sarcasm on witnessing a overdose of exchanges on these issues in FH. All said and done, frequent exchanges on such issues may lead to some reduction in the collective Entropy of Tamil society and pave the way for some reconcilation of views, well within democratic means.

The idea is to serve as a common thread with a catchment area that includes all that's listed in the title of the thread and thus leave other threads to carry on with their primary focus.

Let's start pouring in our views, in all honesty and civility, and avoid sarcasm and name calling. Tamils have indeed come of age as regards accommodating dissenting views in civil and courteous manner. If several Patti ManRam and Arattai Arangam events are being held on contentious issues in congenial manner, why can't we too conduct ourselves and our posts with required dignity and decorum. Let's resolve to keep it that way, in this thread.

Thanks for your cooperation.

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• From: Parpanas_Caused_Kavery_Problem (@ 203.199.232.164) on: Sun Oct 6 13:22:11
  
  Kannadingas and tamils are first dravidans. We dravidans are brothers and should not fight among ourselves.We must , instead fight our common enemy that is the parpanars. The parpanars are creating cauvery water dispute to destroy the unity between dravidans and bring ariya aatchi.Parpana Barathiraja and all the film industry parpanas are behind this grand anti dravidan conspiracy. First of all, let us get rid of parpanas, then water problem will vanish.
  
  Periyar said rightly: If you see a cobra and parpana at same time, ignore the cobra and crush the parpana.
  
  
• From: Ashok (@ 12-255-214-107.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Oct 6 13:27:52
  
  Slum anna,
  why are you bringing my name in here? So these days a person who posts something about brahmins is not castiest but the guy who points out that tenali himself was a brahmin is.. thsi sis a good lesson anna, you have to teach me more...
  
  anna,
  >>Tenali Ramaiyer has been proved wrong by you here: "Then wisdom dawned on the Brahmins.They felt ashamed of their greed and begged Ramakrishna to forgive them...." <<
  
  I also want to make unrelated logic like you here. can you please give me more info on how to do it? I cant do it how much ever I try.. there has to be a method tagught in slums for this.
  
  >>Nara Naryana !!! Yes dravidians are the great thinkers thats how Valmiki and Vyasa and hundreads of Dravidians developed the Hinduism .. <<
  
  yeah then valmikis and vyasa's kids would also become smart, and their decendents. unless you think that "smart" is not genetic at all. and 100% environmental. slum anna, you have to teach me such logic where I can make such comments like you here, which in its very essence wont make sense. ANNA I want to be just like you...
  
  >>A village idiot need tell a moral story for slum boy like you...and Asshok... <<
  
  slum anna, you have now given me a ;egal slum name "Asshok", what do they call you in the slums, I have only heard that there is this great anna, who makes illogical statements, and I want to be just like him.. please show me the way anna, so that I can be an ANNA like you...
  
  
• From: Ashok (@ 12-255-214-107.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Oct 6 13:30:15
  
  >>I am a descedant of an African monkey. What is your problem Mr MMC? I am proud of that rather than being called us Caste chauvanistic Hindu.<<
  
  yes you shoudl be very proud of all the achievements that your people have produced.. What great achievements you have made in afganistan for the last 5 years. how well were you treating the women.. good acheivements.. you should be very proud nambi..
  
  
• From: Parpans_Caused_KaveryProblem (@ 203.199.232.164) on: Sun Oct 6 13:35:50
  
  Kannadingas and tamils are first dravidans. We dravidans are brothers and should not fight among ourselves.We must , instead fight our common enemy that is the parpanars. The parpanars are creating cauvery water dispute to destroy the unity between dravidans and bring ariya aatchi.Parpana Barathiraja and all the film industry parpanas are behind this grand anti dravidan conspiracy. First of all, let us get rid of parpanas, then water problem will vanish.
  
  Periyar said rightly: If you see a cobra and parpana at same time, ignore the cobra and crush the parpana.Parpans are more dangerous than all the wild beasts of forest
  
  
  
• From: Parpans_Caused_KaveryProblem (@ 203.199.232.164) on: Sun Oct 6 13:36:11
  
  Kannadingas and tamils are first dravidans. We dravidans are brothers and should not fight among ourselves.We must , instead fight our common enemy that is the parpanars. The parpanars are creating cauvery water dispute to destroy the unity between dravidans and bring ariya aatchi.Parpana Barathiraja and all the film industry parpanas are behind this grand anti dravidan conspiracy. First of all, let us get rid of parpanas, then water problem will vanish.
  
  Periyar said rightly: If you see a cobra and parpana at same time, ignore the cobra and crush the parpana.Parpans are more dangerous than all the wild beasts of forest
  
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ cache-dr10.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Oct 6 13:50:52
  
  Slum bOy Asshok:
  
  
  "wisdom will never dawn on Asshok!!! When you felt ashamed of your greed and beg Krishna to forgive you..." He, abathandavan anatharatchgan might forgive you..."
  
  BTB..do not hurt brahmins by saying agragara langauge as slum culture...
  
  
  
• From: Ashok (@ 12-255-214-107.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Oct 6 13:55:35
  
  Slum anna,
  
  >>BTB..do not hurt brahmins by saying agragara langauge as slum culture... <<
  
  anna, please teach me these words!! I am learning so much from you anna. teach me more!!!
  
  I especially want to know how to make illogical conclusions.. Please teahc me that method..
  
  
• From: Parpans_Caused_CauveryProblem (@ 203.199.240.111) on: Sun Oct 6 13:56:14
  
  If you see a cobra and parpana at same time, ignore the cobra and crush the parpana.Parpans are more dangerous than all the wild beasts of forest
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Parpans_Caused_CauveryProblem (@ 203.199.240.111) on: Sun Oct 6 13:56:46
  
  If you see a cobra and parpana at same time, ignore the cobra and crush the parpana.Parpans are more dangerous than all the wild beasts of forest
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Ashok (@ 12-255-214-107.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Oct 6 14:03:26
  
  >>do not hurt brahmins by saying agragara langauge as slum culture... <<
  
  Anna,
  I do not understand what you are talking about? anna, please explain. I get it!! slum culture = "do not make sense ever" thanks anna, I have learnt this new lesson from you...
  
  
• From: Parpans_Created_KauveryProblem (@ 203.199.240.111) on: Sun Oct 6 14:08:51
  
  Ashok
  
  Shut up.and get lost.
  
  
• From: AShok (@ 12-255-214-107.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Oct 6 14:10:36
  
  "P...s_Created_KauveryProblem",
  
  please sir I am learning from anna here. you dont qualify yet to be called anna. When you do I will learn from you too. I already have a guru.
  
  
• From: Parpans_Created_CauveryProblem (@ 203.199.240.111) on: Sun Oct 6 14:15:13
  
  Kannadingas and tamils are first dravidans. We dravidans are brothers and should not fight among ourselves.We must , instead fight our common enemy that is the parpanars. The parpanars are creating cauvery water dispute to destroy the unity between dravidans and bring ariya aatchi.Parpana Barathiraja and all the film industry parpanas are behind this grand anti dravidan conspiracy. First of all, let us get rid of parpanas, then water problem will vanish.
  
  If you see a cobra and parpana at same time, ignore the cobra and crush the parpana.Parpans are more dangerous than all the wild beasts of forest
  
  
• From: SV (@ 203.94.254.165) on: Mon Oct 7 00:27:45
  
  Parpans_Created_CauveryProblem
  
  I am glad that no one has taken up on this flame; But i wonder, why Brahmins are abused as the root cause whenever Tamils are at the losing end from other Dravidian 'brothers'? Haven't we have had enough hoodwinking by you all till now?
  
  
• From: Sabeshan (@ 203.197.138.163) on: Mon Oct 7 03:39:49
  
  Parpans_Created_CauveryProblem:
  
  You are a bloody stupid idiot and you deserve to die...
  
  
• From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com) on: Mon Oct 7 07:54:33
  
  //Parpana Barathiraja and all the film industry //
  
  The whole Tamil world knows that Bharathiraja is a
  Thevar excepting this idiot!
  
  By the way is he a tamil? i doubt so!!
  
  
• From: Arul (@ 202.9.148.231) on: Mon Oct 7 14:24:02
  
  India’s urgent need is SOCIAL JUSTICE.
  
  The following text is taken from final report of The National Commission to Review the Working of the Constitution (NCRWC), under the Chairmanship of Hon’bl farmer Chief Justice Venkta Challaiah. The President of India constituted the NCRWC.
  
  “There is a misconception that the problems of Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Backward Classes are sectional and marginal. In reality these are part of the central and core problems of the country. These three categories of people constitute about 3/4th of the population of the country and almost the entire physical labour force of the country is drawn from them. It is the failure to tackle their problems so as to remove their disabilities and secure their full potential for national development that lies at the root of the many weaknesses faced by post-Independence India to this day. Therefore, these issues and the remedial measures should be approached as central and core concerns of India.”
  
  
• From: siddharth (@ sdn-ap-021njpennp0384.dialsprint.net) on: Mon Oct 7 22:02:50
  
  Dr. Parpans created cauvery problem,: What a beautiful name . One has to be a lucky backward among backward to get that name. My admiration to his parents to have given him that name. Even though the name is so good , I feel the leadership should stay with Dr. Hero Madurai Veeran. The brain may be of the same functional capacity but Dr. Hero wins hands down with his colorful language.I do not know if Dr. PCCP is a real person because he has not used the language of backward dravidians- four letter words.I just heard President Bush on Tv (Cincinnatti speech) and he gave credit to Shtalin for being Saddam Hussain's teacher. I am sure he was referring to Dr. Mu. KA. Shtalin as Joseph has been dead for a long time. What a tribute to backward dravidians. Dr.PCCP should be proud.
  Dr. PCCP: The brahmins have been responsible for far more un dravidian policies like in Tamil Nadu like studies, college, librariries, cleanliness, sanskrit, physics, chemistry. If they can all be somehow exiled then T.N.will be paradise. No Colleges, Doctrates for every backward citizen in Tmil Nadu, everyone can be corrupt and EE Vay Raa Statues in every street. Garbage collection and bath rooms can be banned.
  Imagine a State where every auto driver and every goonda has a university doctorate. Dr. PCCP work for that pareadise. It is not enough just making threats on F.H. Join with Dr. Hero and learn how to throw chappals at brahmin widows or some such heroic deeds. Getting a doctorate is not enough these days. Even Jero Pannirselvan a tea club Owner has a doctorate .Show your metal and do some dravidian service. Atleast show you can collect money for charity and use the money to line your pockets. That will bring respect for you among other backward dravidians. Somehow being an idiot and moron is not enough as 98% of Tamil Nadu are idiots and morons.
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ cache-rl04.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Oct 8 06:31:40
  
  Siddarth:
  
  "What a tribute to backward dravidians..That will bring respect for you among other backward dravidians. Somehow being an idiot and moron is not enough as 98% of Tamil Nadu are idiots and morons..."
  
  I agree with you that dravidians are unfit to commit frauds and white collared crimines like the bold brahmins who under the fortress of Holy temples looted everyhting..Poor Dravidians.. they never had the consciousness to defraud Hindusim or hindustan like the most idotic criminal .. Read below how your brahmin ancestors destroyed hindusim and hindustan because of their greediness
  Shame on you to talk about any one hang your head..in sewage ...
  
  Quote:
  http://www.outlookindia.com/printdis.asp?refer=4127&childid=4127
  
  The strengh of the army of Mahmud of Ghazni was only 25000, when he invaded India. But, the Gurjara kings had an army of 41/2 lakh persons and were prepared to put up a stiff fight against the invader. But they had to act in accordance with the directives of their guru, the chief priest of the temple. But the guru told them that God had appeared before him and told him that He would protect the kings. The priest also said that God had vanished after imposing the condition that special homas must be performed and the Brahmins must be given Annadhaan, Swarnadhaan and Kanyadaan. The priest therefore advised the kings not to go for war but to use the money intended for the war to be gifted away to the Brahmins. He also told them that they face such problems as their belief in Puranas does not continue to be as strong as ever and advised them to be strictly faithful at least thereafter. Believing the words of their guru, the valiant kings waived the idea of counter attack and diverted the money for the welfare of the Brahmins.
  
  Now the emboldened invader started advancing towards Somnath. On coming to know of it, the chief priest ordered for decorating his own pearl-studded palanquin and sent it along with the Devadaasis to receive the invader. When Mahmud of Ghazni reached the temple, he was received with fanfare and a throne was kept decorated for him in the inner sanctorum of the temple opposite to the deity. That throne was valued at Rs.50 lakhs at that time. Its name was Vyaspeet. The deity of the temple had also been decorated with precious ornaments.
  
  The chief priest went near the invader and said, “O! King of Kings!! We remain protected only by your honest rule. Mahavishnu; Pruthiveepathi! You are an avatar of the Lord Vishnu. The bogus kings here had said so many meaningless things about you. It was my arrow like words that controlled them. You should not, therefore, do any harm to the Brahmins. I shall place at your feet a sum of Rs.3 crores as Dakshina”. But, the invader became furious and said, “Oh Kafir! Do you think I am a beggar? I have come here to punish those who worship stone”. {One cannot help recalling the way the Aryans derided Siva worship in the Rig Veda, when they came into contact with the idolatrous Saivites of Indus Valley – for further details visit the site Siva worship in the General Discussion Forum}. Whereupon, the chief priest fell on the feet of the invader and prayed for his mercy pleading that all these arrangements were for their survival. But Mahmud did not heed. He said that these priests were cheating the innocents and were also cheating God. He demanded the treasury be shown to him. When only some portions of the treasury were shown to him, the invader tied the finger of the chief priest with cloth and soaked it in oil and burnt it with fire. Immediately, the chief priest had shown him the entire treasury. The invader looted them all. He had ordered for demolition of the temple. The idol had fallen on the ground after the destruction of magnetic walls. The invader immediately broke that idol also. Gushed out of it like a stream were pearls, diamonds and various precious stones. The invader said that because he had broken the idol, God had given him the award. He had taken them all. He also took along with him 6000 women and 5000 men. Out of these 11000 persons, Brahmins constituted only 800 persons. All the others were Shudras. More details about it are available in Arabic and Gujarathi books.
  
  The kings were given wrong advice. 2. The armed forces were made ineffective. 3. The country was betrayed and the interests of the Brahmins alone were sought to be protected. & 4. The men and women became prisoners of the invaders and subjected to eternal humiliation.
  All this, only because the Hindu kings had accepted the Brahmins as their gurus and acted according to their advice. The Brahmins who had been cheating the people and looting their money in the name of the temple all along with the protection extracted from the king, had all along been actually loyal only to themselves and had betrayed both the Shudras (all non-Brahmins) and the Hindu kings at the earliest available opportunity.
  
  Unquote:
  
  
  
• From: siddharth (@ sdn-ap-020njpennp0288.dialsprint.net) on: Tue Oct 8 08:02:41
  
  Dr. Krishna: Thanks for the quotation from D.K. history books. Md. Ghazani was a very compassionate King and good to the people and that is why the muslims of today are not discriminated.The brahmins killed people and deserve concentration camps for the wrongs they did 2000 years ago. How do we know that they killed people becauseDr. EE Vay Raa and Dr. Anna said so the greatest backward minds of 20th century.
  The money from the temples are collected by the Govt.-ministry of Hindu religeous endowments and ultimately went to Dr. Mu. Kalaignar who is a brahmin and his ministry who were all brahmins. The money was handed over to Dr. Mu. Ka Shtalin who built houses and properties for poor people (his family and concubines). Dr. Krishna any backward will be proud of you as you are a store of backward knowledge.After all people who need backward certificates to pass 8th grade are the geniuses in Tamil Nadu.You will be a better genius if you needed a backward certificate in 5th grade.
  I will grant you the honor of calling you the greatest backward genius after Dr. Hero.
  
  

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