Topic started by abc (@ sydney2.au.ibm.com) on Tue Feb 6 02:31:52 .
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This in response to "AN Indian Christian"'s posting "We dont want CHRISTIANS" besides encountering his false claims and posing counter points of how Xians misused,are misusing Hindus' tolerance and GoI's so-called "secular" laws.
They want to convert only poor Hindus.Not
1)The poor Black Xian Americans
2)The poor Black Xian Africans
3)The Buddhist and/or Communist Chinese,Sinhalese
4)The Muslims

After the infamous Inquisitions/Crusades , these imosters are talking Peace,Tolerance,Love ... anything more to add ?
India's secular laws permit Muslims and Xian orgs only to be funded from Outside
These secular laws control Temples and not Churches and Masjids.

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• From: John Nadar (@ kln2-t3-2.mcbone.net) on: Sat Jul 13 16:41:49
  
  Response to Kartik's message
  
  When the Lord took the sins of all humans on the cross, He did it as a human, so that the the righteousness of God (that is all who sin must pay the price) will be upheld. A truly just God cannot tolerate sin in any form. So when the Lord Jesus carried the sins of all of us on the cross, (so that we may be free from paying the price), the presence of the Father moved away from Him. Therefore, the cry that should have come out from the lips of all of the humanity was transferred to the mouth of Jesus, so that by His sacrifice (which had paid the price for sin), the righteous God can, due of His grace, reach out to the sinners, and that no human who believes in that sacrifice would ever have to utter that cry again.
  
  Response to PD
  
  Sorry PD, I visited the site, but was uanble to find any answers to my questions. About the importance of time, I have realised that I gain enough spiritual strength to last me for the whole day by reading the Bible in the early morning, and so it will be a bad idea on my part to stop it, don't you think so?
  
  Response to Visu
  
  >ultimately, all are having faults so that PD >will tease all!
  
  You are quite right, he will tease all. I once mentioned to him that I have some Hare Rama Hare Krishna freinds and colleagues with whom I sometimes engage in good discussions and debates (quite intelligent conversation where everyone concerned respects the statements of the others) and he posted a reply making fun of us both (you can ckeck it on the "Old responses" should you happen to be interested). Eventhough I had to reply back, I had a good laugh about PD's sense of humour, which I really admired on that occassion.
  John
  
  
• From: Periyaar Dasan (@ 12-248-43-172.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Jul 14 00:35:46
  
  John Nadar – A confused Individual
  
  Let us see what he had said before:
  
  I was born a Christian, became an atheist, and then returned to back Christianity of my own free will ... About caste.. yes, I am proud of my roots
  
  Just think for a moment... what happenned to the big Atheistic country USSR...the land of Comrade Lenin and Comrade Stalin.. Communism was kicked out from there..
  
  For more information about his postings plz look at “old response” above.
  
  I was wondering what would he say if he were a Muslim. Sounds interesting…look below.
  
  :-)
  
  
• From: Tuklak Nadar (@ 12-248-43-172.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Jul 14 00:37:54
  
  Dai PD,
  
  I was born a Christian, became an atheist. Some time ago I went to this Middle East country where I met this guy with turban called Osama. He asked me “Do you believe in Allah ?”. I didn’t have any choice but to say “yes”. Then he took me to some place gave training and finally I became a Muslim of my own free will ... About caste.. yes, I am proud of my roots. That is why I selected this name “Tuklak Nadar”. I want to say one thing to all non-muslims
  
  One never converts to Islam, but only returns back to his or her original nature
  
  Just think for a moment... what happenned to the big Atheistic country USSR...the land of Comrade Lenin and Comrade Stalin.. Communism was kicked out from there. Do you know why ? Bcoz of Allah. These guys tried to capture Afghanistan but bcoz of Allah’s grace we drove them out and won the war. Now look at USSR. It has become so many muslim countries like Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan etc. A printing press, which spewed out revolutionary scrap, is now used to print Kuran!
  
  Not only that look at USA. We hit their WTC with the help of our Lord ALLAH. Now its economy it collapsing. The victims ran away shouting "thundae kaana, thuniyai kaana". My God acts in His own time. He may or may not act at the moment, but it is certain that He will act.Those persons who hit the plane in WTC died for us. They will be rewarded in heaven with virgins.
  
  Do you know one thing ? Mohammed Ali is a Muslim. Will Smith became a Muslim when he acted in the movie “Ali”. I know this is not true but some times we have to spread rumors to spread our religion. We are also trying to convert Mike Tyson & Holyfield.
  
  You may not believe this. But it is true. Superstar Rajnikanth has returned to Islam. This happened when he was acting in this movie “Baba”. This is big news and we can start a new thread to discuss more about it. Sure there will be more persons who will believe this crap and give their opinion.
  
  Anyway I am reading Kuran daily. Though I don’t understand anything it gives me enough spiritual strength. Islam preaches peace by killing. I don’t know why people are finding this simple thing very difficult to understand.
  
  Tuklak Nadar.
  
  
• From: Periyaar Dasan (@ 12-248-43-172.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Jul 14 01:21:51
  
  Hey John,
  
  Sorry PD, I visited the site, but was uanble to find any answers to my questions
  
  See now.
  
  http://forumhub.com/expr/5329.21.12.36.html#last
  
  :-)
  
  
• From: John Nadar (@ kln2-t1-2.mcbone.net) on: Sun Jul 21 16:22:44
  
  Periyar, Periyar, Periyar,
  
  Did you leave your sense of humour at home? Why can't you see the funny side of a response?
  When I wrote "comrade lenin", I was poking fun at the communists because of their habit of addressing others as "Comrades".... You know that the Viets address Ho Chi minh
  as "Uncle Ho", and the N. Koreans Kim Il Sung as "the great leader" and kim jong il as "the dear leader". When I talk to my Chineese colleagues, I refer to the "great chairman mao".. as far as I am concerned, he, like many other commies, is a butcher, but I say such things for fun.. I personally am not fond of communism.
  And your message from "tuglak Nadar" is nothing but an effort to twist my words (I found it funny, though).. Still, I have proved something that your guru didn't, haven't I? Just read my earlier postings..
  
  Finally, not all atheists are commies.
  
  John
  
  

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