Truth About Jesus
Topic started by Karuvayan (@ cs6668103-167.austin.rr.com) on Wed Jan 8 10:34:22 .
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Why delete this thread? What is wrong in discussing an Issue that has been discussed in the BBC itself? It really shows the bias of the Admin.
I will keep this thread going along no matter how many times it is being deleted.
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- From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com)
on: Sun Jan 26 08:39:29
///But now I beleive you did it purposely///
Milton,
Enna sonnalum athai negative meaningla than eduthukanuma?
I think my remark that you shouldnt feel low about your community made you get annoyed.I just mentioned it without any malice.
I have also earlier used to get touchy when the caste is mentioned.Nowadays not so.
Anyhow, I am leaving this unwanted discussion.
- From: Milton (@ palo8.pacific.net.sg)
on: Sun Jan 26 08:59:24
MMC,
Ok.Leave it.
"saathi irandozhiya verillai
saattrungaal neethi vazhuva neri muraiyil,meathiniyil
"Ittar Periyor,idaathor izhi kulathoor"
- From: Women (@ h147.n219-68-18.adsl.giga.net.tw)
on: Mon Feb 24 08:44:31
Dear Karuvaya
The world doesn't need people like you, why don't you knock yourself down.
What a shame to see Indians going aganist Indians, no wonder Indians are still considered the most backward people in history.
I don't think a good muslim, christian and hindu will say anything bad about their individual belives. Only the rottens ones want to prove to others they are the best and has a best religion. All that matters in this world is peace and love, not hatred and anger
I am writting this mail to say to all you guys, go and do something worthwhile in life rather than spending your precious time in arguing with each other blindly. Religion is sensitif issue, leave it to the wise man to decided who killed who in the past.
I belive an educated person will not spend time in arguing about religion.
Come on, Indians.....live today to show a good example tomorrow. Stop this nonsense.
I am a born Indian Muslim, I was given away to a wealthy hindu family when I was 2 days old, (my muslim parents can't take care of their 10 children) I married to a very nice christian guy, I respect the christian religion and the teaching. I have a good life and I have only look at the good teaching that all this 3 religion gives.
- From: Alfonse (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Mon Feb 24 12:44:18
//I just mentioned kattu maram due to your background and you need not take it as an Insult to you and feel low about your community//
Dey MMC:
So you expect Milton to feel low about his community, and you apologise for making him feel low? By your very words you admit that you implied that Milton should feel low about his community.
This dog will go to any depth to slander and hurt others. He will try to apologise later, happily knowing that the damage is already done.
This is not even an isolated incident, where he says something derogatory and tries to apologise later. He has done it over and over again.
Kasaapu kadaikaaran aattukutty thalai vetti eduthu vittu, kayathukku "anbudan" bandage potta kadhaiyaa irukku!
- From: Hendry G (@ wmu-53-31.tm.net.my)
on: Wed Mar 26 02:56:29
Sumai Sumarthu sorthu iruporgelah, varungel yennidum, Nan umaku ilaipathruven, yengindrar Yesus. I tell you no want in this world have said that to another man. Only Jesus and forever Jesus, My Love. My Soul and Body will be your Footstool. Amen.
- From: Hendrg G (@ wmu-53-31.tm.net.my)
on: Wed Mar 26 03:01:58
Karuna, God is in every heart. When you respect others God will do the same to you no matter what religion u are ! First treat man as man.... that is what God want. I love you. Take my God's love. When you see someone hurt or wounded, your heart will be pity for him/she. there is God. God Love you God Love you more than mans..... ok
- From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com)
on: Wed Mar 26 11:50:02
But the fact remains that in India , due to some mistaken notion of 'secularism', the press wont report any such act if it concerns non-hindu religious institutions.
The politicians wont raise their voice fearing vote bank.
Even now the church uses the threat of vote bank to coerce politicians to do its bidding.A recent example is that of the Nasareth church which gave a open call by ringing the bell and asked the people to vote for anti-AIADMK alliance to win.
So, such abuses are more in the churches and in the case of Islam it is slightly different as the abuses are institutionalised.Among the women-suicides, muslim women lead the statistics in Tamilnadu.
Many christian nuns are forced into nunnery due to poverty in the family or due to the blind beleif of their parents and is rarely out of their own volition or willingness.These nuns become fodder for the abusers and there is a strongnetwork which runs across the church from top to bottom, so rarely the priest is exposed or punished.
Maximum punishment is shifting the priest to another parish. The question of caste also plays a vital role in protecting the paedophile priests.
- From: tamilan-1 (@ startelcorp.com)
on: Wed Mar 26 14:10:39
mmc,
>> The politicians wont raise their voice fearing vote bank.
christians constitute 2% of population as against 85% hindus. Use your mind here! You may be right and thats why jaya pretends to be favoring RSS ideals so that majority hindus will be on her favor. Combining religion and politics will invite big trouble not for politicians but for the public.
- From: tamilan-1 (@ startelcorp.com)
on: Wed Mar 26 14:16:25
mmc,
>>Many christian nuns are forced into nunnery due to poverty in the family or due to the blind beleif of their parents and is rarely out of their own volition or willingness.
1. is that why RSS gang-raped and killed a keralite nun in Gujarat
2. One tamil nun working for upliftment of poor biharis was forced to drink urine of goondas. even DMK govt protested to bihar govt on this
What does Hinduism do for poor women. Does it treat them better/worse than christianity. Does Mother teresa who left her parents and country to help the poor in calcutta ring any bell on your mind and heart? Infact, it has motivated many hindu women to wake up and fight for their rights and of their babies. Even MGR honored her by naming a university by her name in kodaikanal.
- From: Karuvayan (@ cs2417546-174.austin.rr.com)
on: Wed Mar 26 20:23:42
http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/dec/01iype.htm
- From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com)
on: Thu Apr 17 12:58:12 EDT 2003
it seems these fellows want me to follow the karu's path!
- From: vaidyanathanan (@ dialpool-210-214-209-186.maa.sify.net)
on: Thu Apr 17 21:22:31 EDT 2003
mmc and karuvayan:
please look at my postings:
1.lesson for tamilnadu from ancient episodes in kashmir
2.druids and brahmans
you will get a larger picture on the history of conversions around the world
- From: Roshan (@ 203.115.13.90)
on: Fri Apr 18 02:25:52 EDT 2003
mmc, you seem to be very sarcastic in what you say. I do not think you are saying this without any malice, because I can see you posting in a very innocent and thoughtful way in some other threads especially under "friendship", contrary to what you are doing here.people like Karuvayan are always the same every where they go. But you are not one of those.
The remark you've made on "kattumaram" will not lead Milton or any other educated, broard minded and mature person to feel low about himself or his community. It does only show the background of your's and definetley leads others to think low about your community , background or whatever society you are in.
By reading your psotings under "friendship" I thougt you were a mature individual with innocence filled inside yourself. But I now have started wondering whether I was wrong.
- From: Al (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Fri Apr 18 20:31:55 EDT 2003
This is the true face of MMC.
Roshan, you should have seen some of his posts where he praises his "heroes" like Bal Thackeray and Narendra Modi.
Every abuse that karunayan and aruvaal spewed here was overtly and covertly supported by mmc here.
This is the reason why people like me came into this forum to counter-attack him.
- From: mmcholan (@ netcache.spectranet.com)
on: Sat Apr 19 14:05:31 EDT 2003
Roshan,
If i have to explain to u, it will be a long one....
I am simply bored of explaining myself to ppl again and again...
Just hang around for some more time and u will understand as to how the history threads were 'converted' into battle grounds and as to why i have to behave like this....
by the way, u are free to have your views on me...i am no saint , i too have my negative tendencies...
- From: mummudicholan (@ netcache.spectranet.com)
on: Sat Apr 19 14:05:42 EDT 2003
Roshan,
If i have to explain to u, it will be a long one....
I am simply bored of explaining myself to ppl again and again...
Just hang around for some more time and u will understand as to how the history threads were 'converted' into battle grounds and as to why i have to behave like this....
by the way, u are free to have your views on me...i am no saint , i too have my negative tendencies...
- From: vaidyanathanan (@ dialpool-210-214-208-216.maa.sify.net)
on: Sat Apr 19 21:14:04 EDT 2003
in 17 cen a catholic priest unable to convert many upper caste in pandya nadu wore sacred thread and called himself european brahmana to spread his teachings.he got the permission from pope to do it.the letter of permission etc is all a part of well preserved documents.if a catholic wanted to convert hindus come out and preach your religion as it were.what are these tricks?
read also my posting druids and brahmans to get a picture on the way western europe became a christian land.the tricks used by roman catholics run into millions.may be the christians should publish encyclopedias on this.let the whole world learn from christianity.let it show the way.
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