Topic suggested by Jeya on Thu Mar 18 12:12:10 .
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Could someone answer the questions below?

1) Is it the sEra Nadu which became Kerala?
2) If so, what caused the sEra NAdu to become Kerala and to adopt a new language - MalayAlam- with new scripts leaving the Tamil identity?

Responses:

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• From: Ceyloni@uk (@ host81-152-158-237.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) on: Thu Jul 3 18:38:29 EDT 2003
  
  Microsan,
  
  that was a great piece of prose!
  
  I do not think Tamils and Malayalis have parted, but have taken different paths.
  
  But as close relations we should talk and discuss our common history more.
  
  There are lots of threads about Ceylon Tamils having more of mixture (at least 1,500 of years ago) of what is now Kerala & Tamil Nadu
  
  
• From: Ceyloni@uk (@ host81-152-158-237.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) on: Thu Jul 3 18:38:38 EDT 2003
  
  Microsan,
  
  that was a great piece of prose!
  
  I do not think Tamils and Malayalis have parted, but have taken different paths.
  
  But as close relations we should talk and discuss our common history more.
  
  There are lots of threads about Ceylon Tamils having more of mixture (at least 1,500 of years ago) of what is now Kerala & Tamil Nadu
  
  
• From: manu (@ jrc-cache5.jaring.my) on: Tue Jul 29 04:17:23 EDT 2003
  
  whether it is Cheralam, Chera Naadu, or kerala, the fact remains that now, kerala is kerala and tamizh naadu is tamizh naadu. Malayalam has evolved to exist as a separate language with it's own literary beauty (though none can deny that it has its origin from tamizh and is considered the sister language of tamizh). And tamizh of course, being one of the oldest languages in the world, is still one of the most beautiful languages existing. So coming back to the topic, let kerala be kerala with her own distinct language, culture, heritage and way of life.
  
  
• From: Karuvayan (@ cs2417534-176.austin.rr.com) on: Tue Jul 29 07:50:31 EDT 2003
  
  The first reference to Kerala comes from the edicts of King Ashoka. This is around 250 BCE. The Mauryan empire streched from Herat in Western Afghanistan to Bangladesh in the East and from Kashmir to Karnataka. Ashoka also mentions the Cholas, Pandyas and 'Satiya putras' (there is not much info on the Satiya Putras tough).
  
  The edicts also mention that Ashoka's writs also were valid in these states and that these states also paid tribute to the mauryas and absorbed many ideas from them.
  
  
• From: R.Sri Hari (@ modem52.bayrac5.eureka.lk) on: Wed Jul 30 11:55:22 EDT 2003
  
  Dear Readers,
  
  Keralas are refered to in Viyasa's Mahabharatha.
  
  Refer to my Thread in this Forum Hub now under "Old Topics" titled,
  
  "References to Tamil Royal Dynasties and Tamil Countries, in the original Sanskrit Mahabharatha of Sage Viyasa"
  
  Further to know more of Kerala history during the medieval period, refer to my Thread under "Old topics" titled,
  
  A BRIEF HISTORICAL SURVEY ON MEDIEVAL CHOLAS
  AND THEIR RELATIONS WITH THE CHERAS {KERALAS} OF THE CONTEMPORARY PERIOD
  {A.D.801 - A.D 1120}
  
  -----------------------------------------------
  
  
  
• From: Idiappam (@ cache139.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Wed Jul 30 13:37:13 EDT 2003
  
  And with that, this thread comes to an end!
  {applause}
  
  
• From: Mavalangkilli (@ hse-mtl-ppp66548.qc.sympatico.ca) on: Fri Aug 22 16:27:15 EDT 2003
  
  Chera Nadu became Kerala Nadu eventually by the invasion of some brahmin community from north which immigrated to Chera Nadu some 600 years ago under the influenece of foreign kings whom may have helped or brought them there and eventually they began to invade the whole Chera Nadu and since the people didn't get much of the education due to the fact they were working in coffe farms so after when India got independent it decided to divide territories by their mother tongue where Kerala generated a new language 600 years ago call Malayalam which is still 60% Thamizh and 40% other contents include most of Sanskirit so the Central Government didn't care about Thamizh or Thamizh speaking people so it gave Kerala separately from TN and those Thamizh politicans at that time thought of being Indians than being of Thamizhans so not only Kerala was separated from TN but also some part of which it has include Thamizh speaking people and alot of areas where Thamizh speaking people lived at that time were lost to the Kerala under the manipulation and the power of Central Government. Historically and evidentally Keral was Chera Nadu and where 'Peruncheralathan' who once was a big King of Chera Nadu who went to 'Imaya malai' and put the 'vil(bow)' flag of Cherars on that Mountain which then gained him a name called 'Imayavaramban' and so did his son Cheran Senkuttuvan did the same thing and his other son Illango created the 'Silapathikaram' which is famous for it's revolting story and the unity of Thamizh Nadu and also Illango proved that you cannot predict the future by becoming a buddhist priest but he remained totally as a Thamizhan. So Don't be blur about the fact of now day Kerala because Chera Nadu is Kerala.
  nantri, Vannakam:D
  
  
• From: Mavalangkilli (@ hse-mtl-ppp66548.qc.sympatico.ca) on: Fri Aug 22 16:33:38 EDT 2003
  
  
  
  During Ashoka Empire Thamizhan Didn't lose their land:D and during that time Chera, Chozha, Pandy kingdoms exicisted and the fact is Chera Nadu was ancient of all of the Thamizh Nadu as some people would say anyway some things are manipulating such as they would say Cherars didn't rule the kerala and say like the current TN contains the part of Chera Nadu which is pathetic because you actually have 70% of each Chozha and Pandy Nadu and the other 30% of each of them are lost and 100% of the Chera Nadu! Which is Kerala!
  
  
• From: £ (@ proxy4.leeds.ac.uk) on: Fri Aug 22 17:31:26 EDT 2003
  
  Guys, the last thing we want is india to break up. it is increasingly tied up by a common economy, a media and nationalism. it is hilarious to think india will break up. this is like thinking that USA will become an undeveloped country.
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ ) on: Wed May 5 12:08:59
  
  USA isn't in the first 10 category of developing Nations! I don't think it is maybe you should research about that! It's btw not India but (H)India and of course as you said (H)India won't split up as long as Thamizhan remain as fools and enslaved to (H)India!
  
  

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