Topic started by Durai (@ 203.145.183.164) on Sun Oct 12 12:04:25 .
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Hi Friends,

Tamil is the one of the oldest language in world. All Diravidan languages developed from Tamil.


Telugu in Tamilnadu
When Tamil Kingdom was there , that time KrishnaDevaraya Occupied Madurai, Then Thirumalai nayakar ruled southern part of Tamilnadu.That period small jamin king's are Naiakar(FC), Naidus(BC). Still Tamilnadu few jamin place name called BodiNayakanur, KandamaNayakanur,ErasakaNayakanur. Other than Naidus Telugu talk Komutti Chetty(BC), chakliar(who use stick cheppals- belongs to sc) ,Reddy's(BC), Telugu Bhramin(FC) settled.These people use to talk Telugu mixing Tamil.


Kannada in Tamilnadu
When Tippusuldhar ruled in southern karnadaka, Gowdas came via western hills. They are now in Theni Dt, Dindugal Dt, Coimbatore, Udagai Dt. They use to talk OldKannada mixing Tamil.(Vogaliga, Kurumba, some Gowda Married women wont wear Thali ,Only Minji is regagnize them)

Malayalam mixing Tamil in Tamilnadu.
Nagarkoil, Coimbatore Nearby kerala, Evan Malaylam few century ago only formed from Tamil. so still Nagarkoil tamilian use to talk malaylam mixing Tamil. When Kamaraj ruled TN He gave Moonar place to Kerala government, He got Nagargoil from Kerala.(In Nagargoil Nadar's are majarity).


Sowrastra in Tamilnadu.
Madurai ruled king ThirumalaiNaickar capture sowrastra place,got some beautiful women . sowrastrians use to prepare nice silk cloths, so they came to madurai and settled near to menakshi temple.


Marathi in Tamilnadu.
When Marathi king shivaji capture Thanjavur Marathi speeking bhramin people settled near to those area.


Sanskrit in TamilNadu
Sanskrit is one of the oldest beautiful language in India. It's different from Dhiravida language. Hindi came from sanskrit. Aryan's entered to India, all north indian languages formed. so, Tamilnadu Bhramin's(Iyar, Iyangar -FC) knows Sanskrit. All Vedas is in Sanskrit language.


Hindi (Gujarathi) in TamilNadu
When Marvadis, seth came to Tamilnadu for Business Hindi become rich language in Tamilnadu.


Who's Original Tamilzhian:

Tamil Speeking people are mostly backword. They are black, Hard worker. Little Curly hair, Dark eye people. They are not popular when Caste system's entered in India.
From Tamil all other Dhiravida languages formed.

1. Lately All Bhramin used to talk Tamil . They are fair, Forward caste (Iyer, Iyengar)

2. (FC-Few) Mudaliar(Royal Agriculture people), Pillai (Interested to Music) are little fair they use to talk Tamil.

3. (BC) Tamil Gowndar-Agriculture main work, soft , politly , respectable words use to talk.

4. Tamil Chettiar(Business main job) are Tamilzhian. Full Business motivated people.

5. (BC) Nadar Community. Once their work panyan , they are hided from other FC community. when few of them converted to Christin they got education from British Government. Later they entered to Business, become unity they are their community itself.

6. Thevar (MBC) subCategory Kallar, Maravar, Agamudyar, Maniar.They are Bold, Once kallar use to do stolen job.now mainly occupied in politics. Tamil Talking people.Black people.

7. Vaniar (MBC) SubCategory Naikar. Main work Agricuture . Hard worker. Black people. Majority in North Tamilnadu.

8. Pallar, Parayar (SC) AdhiDhiravida people. Main work Agriculture. Use to do hard work but they can get few benefits from other BC, FC people. when Government allocated education scheme they are in good post. Black people . use to Talk Tamil.

9. Valluvar,Pandaram,Padayachi,Navidhar,gragamani lot of minority community use to talk Tamil.

Even in Tamilnadu now a days all are so eagarly give respect to Tamil . Even their mother tangue Different also. All are Unity.



with love
Durai.

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• From: Balakrishnan S Naicker (@ zukprxpro02.zreo.compaq.com) on: Thu Oct 14 14:53:58 EDT 2004
  
  By religions,languages,states,castes we are many, But as a nation, we are ONE(i.e INDIANS, atleast in the map :-) ).
  Thats the speciallity of india and thats why it is called "Subcontinent"
  
  
  
  
• From: DEVA (@ 212.130.111.3) on: Fri Oct 15 03:36:31 EDT 2004
  
  
  BRAHMINS MAY BE FAIRER BUT WE THE DRAVIDIANS ARE BRIGHTER .DRAVIDIANS ARE THE CREATORS OF TAMIL CULTURE.BRAHMINS ENGINEERED TO HIJACK TAMIL CULTURE .BRAHMINS ARE NON TAMILS .THEU ARE ARYANS .
  
  BRAHMINS ARE ARYANS ! THEY HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH DRAVIDIANS .ITS FOR THIS REASON THE ANIMOSITY STILL EXISTS BETWEEN THE TWO.BRAHMINS WILL NEVER SAY THEY ARE TAMILS.
  
  
  THEY PREFER TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVE AS BRAHMINS.THIS IS RIGHTFULLY SO AS THEY ARE NOT ETHNICALLY INDIANS BY BLOODLINE.THEY ARE CROSSBREEDS !TAMIL ETHNIC AND IRANIAN BLOOD .
  
  THEY ARE MADE OF THE SAME FABRIC AS IN THE NORTH INDIANS. GERONTOCRACY AS IN ...ADVANI,VAJPAYEE.NORTH INDIANS HAVE ASSIMILATED TAMIL CULTURE WHICH IS INDIAN CULTURE .
  
  
  
  BRAHMINS STOLE THE WISDOM AND THE GENIUS OF SCIENCE FROM THE DRAVIDIAN SAGES.THEY ENACTED THE MANUSASTRUM TO HIDE IT FROM THE DRAVIDIAN TAMIL MASSES.
  
  BRAHMINS ARE ENEMIES OF THE TAMILS.DON,T TRUST THEM.THEY ARE THIEVES !
  
  
  
• From: Pitydurai (@ ppp18-120.dsl-pun.eth.net) on: Tue Oct 19 08:00:17 EDT 2004
  
  Durai,you Tamilians are sensitive animals who are good for nothig else.Thats why no one else will respect you.By your theory all languages are born from Tamil.Then,you should have delivered your mom as well.Silly boy,you don't earn respect like that.You better learn to give it and take it.I have seen only a couple of communities which are hated by all-Muslims and Tamilians.Analyse the reasons now. Don't be proud about yourselves before you achieve half of what others have done.
  
  
• From: inian (@ lak-73-228.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) on: Tue Oct 19 18:48:36 EDT 2004
  
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  if aryans had come to India from from todays Iran as the theory goes, why there is no trace of Sanscrit in those part of the world? do you assume that all the people have vacated Iran? ........love Tamil but respect Sanscrit and other Indian languages that o;riginated from these two languages. avoid linguistic clashes atleast hereafter.
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  Arya theory from Iran,Iraq could be true ..
  One simple example, one of my iraq ( i have only one iraq friend) is able to understand more than 50% of Hindi conversation ( equivalent to a dialect of sanskrit), he never learned hindi and never been in india. what he said is Sanskrit is related to his language( kurdish ).
  
  
• From: inian (@ lak-73-228.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) on: Tue Oct 19 18:54:18 EDT 2004
  
  Kurdish people are native people of Iraq and iran. Their language is very much related to Sanskrit. This is one of the strong evidence for the Arya theory from Iran, Iraq.
  
  
• From: inian (@ lak-73-228.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) on: Tue Oct 19 19:00:59 EDT 2004
  
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  respect Sanscrit and other Indian languages that o;riginated from these two languages. avoid linguistic clashes atleast hereafter.
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  There is no question about the richness of Sanskrit, thats a wonderful lanquage , mother of most of todays north indian languages. Everybody respect Sanskrit , there is no doubt about that. However what all says is Sanskrit is not a pure indian language. thats a Indo-european language. Although sanskrit was grown and flourished in india, the orgin was from outside india.
  
  
• From: tony azggan (@ dialup-4.234.24.10.dial1.miami1.level3.net) on: Wed Oct 20 06:23:43 EDT 2004
  
  Dr.Deva: The problem is that everyone in the world wants to live in Tamil Nadu. The intellectual attainment of backwards,the clean enviornment,the beauty of Buckingham Canal,The absence of mosquitoes and infectious diseases, honest Government, plenty of clean water,sparsely populated,Tamil Cinema with great heroes like super shtar,Mega Shtar, Action King,Dr.Senthil,the place where Godess Gusboo lives, the high speed Autos, EVR statues.
  
  

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