Topic started by R. S. Pillai (@ dsc03.aui-tx-1-181.rasserver.net) on Sat Jul 27 22:17:40 .
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Who are these Karthar Pillai? Did they migrate to India? If so, from where? Are they native of Lemuria Continent?

Please give e-mail or address of Karthar Sangam, if any one has. I heard there are in USA, Tamil Nadu, Bombay, Malayesia, Singapore etc.

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• From: vAsan (@ bgp01390225bgs.sequoa01.nm.comcast.net) on: Fri Aug 9 16:09:54
  
  Dear Raveen
  
  Once Vassan has written that KaarKarthar were clan of cultivators who specialized in rain making rituals
  
  Now thats news to me! rain making rituals & all that!
  
  btw: As you might 've known I was born into
  this so called "kArkAththAr" caste/clan.. whatever :)
  
  If I can convince myself that its OK to talk
  about caste stuff that too one's own,will do so...
  
  
• From: :) Punnahai (@ d221-216-99.systems.cogeco.net) on: Fri Aug 9 16:22:02
  
  >>If I can convince myself that its OK to talk
  about caste stuff that too one's own,will do so...<<
  
  Vassan:
  
  I often have this discussion with my sister who lives back in India about the same issue. She detests any discussion on caste. But.... my logic is, in the history of the castes lies the history of India. So we need to learn about the history of the castes to learn our country's history if nothing else.
  
  
• From: P.N.Kumar (@ 202.152.27.66) on: Fri Aug 9 23:29:36
  
  Dear Vasan,
  Request you confirm that info on St.Appar and what is kuRukkaiyar kudi, my friend. As punnahai says, there is nothing wrong in knowing the history, if viewed only from that aspect.
  
  
• From: P.N.Kumar (@ 202.152.27.66) on: Fri Aug 9 23:29:46
  
  Dear Vasan,
  Request you confirm that info on St.Appar and what is kuRukkaiyar kudi, my friend. As punnahai says, there is nothing wrong in knowing the history, if viewed only from that aspect.
  
  
• From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com) on: Sat Aug 10 14:45:02
  
  ///But.... my logic is, in the history of the castes lies the history of India. So we need to learn about the history of the castes to learn our country's history if nothing else///
  
  I do agree with Punnahai's statement.Infact this is the only statement or punnahai, which is somewhat reasonable and with some maturity!
  
  Vasan...u continue posting whatever details u know.
  
  with love towards all and malice towards none,
  
  ~mummudicholan~
  
  
• From: SV (@ 61.11.33.35) on: Mon Aug 12 10:44:32
  
  I chanced on this info on AR Rahman:
  
  "A. R. Rahman or Allah Rakha Rahman was born actually A. S. Dileep Kumar on the 6th of January in the year 1967, in Madras (now Chennai), to a musically affluent Tamil Mudaliar family. The second of four children he had three sisters Kanchana, Bala (now Talat) and Israth, Kanchana being elder and the other two younger. His father R.K. Sekhar was a composer, arranger and conductor in Malayalam movies and had worked under the likes of Salil Chowdhary and Devarajan. His mother was Kasthuri (now Kareema Begum). "
  
  Complete info in
  http://members.tripod.com/gopalhome/arrbio.html
  
  
• From: D.A.SANKAR (@ ) on: Thu Sep 26 16:21:55
  
  WISHES.--D.A.SANKAR, STATE GENERAL SECRETRY,TAMILNADU SAIVA VELLALER SANGAM
  100,W.G.C ROAD,TUTICORIN-620008
  
  
• From: krupakaran (@ adsl-64-216-69-49.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) on: Thu Oct 17 12:58:15
  
  I want to know the meaning of "Siva Tonda thooia vellala mudaliar". and how can they be compared to a goundar. This is because my brother is getting married to a goundar girl. I would appreciate your response.
  
  Thank you.
  
  
• From: kumaran (@ athena.wits.ac.za) on: Fri Oct 18 13:27:49
  
  karaikAtu vellalar, i believe this is the same as kArkAthar. but i'm not sure if this is a division of tondamandalam or pandya vellalars.
  
  i read somewhere that the vellalas that moved to AP became the velamars there, who call themselves nayudus. but isnt that a kammavaru community?
  
  

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