Topic started by Jan (@ 210.195.122.59) on Thu Dec 19 23:55:57 .
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• From: U.R.S. (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Fri Dec 20 05:22:47
  
  They used only prakrit language that time and had very limited contacts with ORAON associated tribal folk who ultimately distorted their heritage and usurped their hindu heritage[Jain]This reduced Chola associated Sozhia group to a miniscule of tamilnadus population.Then their came multitribal,multiracial chola empire which civilized and vellalaized South India using irrigated ariculture in an extensive way.All this happened had the expense of Prakrit speaking ethnic cholas.The word Chola is of Prakrit origin and their irrigation schemes are magnified replicas of related Prakrit folk from Sri lanka and Thamraparni valley in thinnevelly.
  
  
• From: U.R.S. (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Fri Dec 20 05:22:52
  
  They used only prakrit language that time and had very limited contacts with ORAON associated tribal folk who ultimately distorted their heritage and usurped their hindu heritage[Jain]This reduced Chola associated Sozhia group to a miniscule of tamilnadus population.Then their came multitribal,multiracial chola empire which civilized and vellalaized South India using irrigated ariculture in an extensive way.All this happened had the expense of Prakrit speaking ethnic cholas.The word Chola is of Prakrit origin and their irrigation schemes are magnified replicas of related Prakrit folk from Sri lanka and Thamraparni valley in thinnevelly.
  
  
• From: Venki (@ 12-238-133-106.client.attbi.com) on: Thu Dec 26 01:11:27
  
  Here is the Geneology of the Early Cholas.
  
  50BC-25BC - 1)Veliyan Tittan, Conqueror of Uraiyur
  25BC-1AD - 2)Porvaikko-Perunarkilli (son of 1)
  1AD-25AD - 3)Mudittalaiko-Perunarkilli (son of 2)
  1AD-50AD - 4)Karikalan I alias Perumpun-Cenni
  25AD-50AD - 5)Velpahtadakkai-Perunarkilli (son of 3)
  50AD-75AD - 6)Uruva-pahter-Ilaneed-Cenni (son of 4)
  75AD-100AD- 7)Karikalan II (son of 6)
  100AD-125AD- 8)Cedcenni-Nalankilli (son of 7)
  125AD-150AD- 9)Kulamurrattu-tunciya-Killivalavan
  150AD-175AD- 10)Rajasuyam-Vetta-Perunarkilli
  175AD-200AD- 11) Cholan Ko-Cenkannan
  
  Note: The dates are approximate and is derived from the Sangam literary works by K.N.Sivaraja Pillai in his book 'The Chronology of the Early Tamils'.
  
  I have no idea where Ellala Cholan who figures in Sri Lankan history falls in this chronolgy. I think he may have been earlier than this, since Sri Lankan sources date him at 161 BC - 117 BC during the time of Dutugemunu.
  
  
• From: UDAYA (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Sat Dec 28 06:16:58
  
  These names names are not ''tamil''. They are of a language related to ancient singhalese.May be they are dameda Singhalese dialect spoken by SENA,GUTHTHIKA,ELARA like leaders who tried to take Anuradhapura Kingdom
  
  
• From: Sinhala Pakeya (@ cache-loh-ad02.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Dec 28 08:30:21
  
  Ane Udaya Machang
  
  Monuwatha karenne?? oyata sanippa natha??
  
  
• From: Skanthavelu Nadarajah (@ edtntnt1-port-146.dial.telus.net) on: Sat Dec 28 12:47:19
  
  Eeeeeeeeeeeks!!! This is confusing!!! 8((((
  
  
• From: URS (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Fri Jan 3 04:03:03
  
  Sangam is dated with the help of dubious history book on singhala kingdom.
  
  
• From: Nisala (@ 12-232-208-20.client.attbi.com) on: Sat Jan 4 14:58:53
  
  Udaya,
  
  Thank you for writing normally instead of using CAPS. I appreciate that.
  
  "These names names are not ''tamil''."
  
  Excuse me?!?!? You think names like Cholan Ko-Cenkannan or Mudittalaiko-Perunarkilli are from N. India?!?!?!?!?!?
  
  
• From: udaya (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Tue Jan 7 05:25:04
  
  These names are derived from Ela[Dam-ela is also a related form as well as Chola, Kerala like names ending in LA].This Ela language is from western India and Iran.These words does not correlate with the pure ''tamil''used by people who came to Sri Lanka and lived outside Kotte Kingdom and Jaffna Kingdom.But Singhalese never called them ''Dam-elas as they did not have Vedic social structure and they were let to live like Muslims under their own leaders who never created bigger administrative units[states] as Puddunkotte and Ramanathapura of mukkulathors in south india
  
  
• From: Sinhala Pakeya (@ cache-loh-aa02.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Jan 7 16:27:38
  
  Hi udaya yaluwe
  
  
  "These names are derived from Ela[Dam-ela is also a related form as well as Chola, Kerala like names ending in LA].This Ela language is from western India and Iran.These words does not correlate with the pure ''tamil''used by people who came to Sri Lanka and lived outside Kotte Kingdom and Jaffna Kingdom.But Singhalese never called them ''Dam-elas as they did not have Vedic social structure and they were let to live like Muslims under their own leaders who never created bigger administrative units[states] as Puddunkotte and Ramanathapura of mukkulathors in south india"
  
  
  what medication are you on???It is better to see a vedamahathaya and get some proper treatment for your pissu( Madness)otherwise you will continue to hallucinate that all the Tamils are devils or aliens from other planets . Sorry putha,hurry up and seek help from a Psychiatrist before someone kick your head in again.
  
  
• From: Karuvayan (@ cs6668103-167.austin.rr.com) on: Tue Jan 7 19:48:05
  
  Udaya, you all will never learn. Even some more airports will not drive some sense into your head.
  
  Glad atleast Nisala has an open mind.
  
  
• From: ARIKAMEDU (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Tue Mar 18 02:21:17
  
  Where is people who contributed to this column now
  
  
• From: Thamilan (@ 12.151.162.68) on: Tue Mar 18 04:52:08
  
  The next Thing is that the people who call themselves as Singhalam will want the Chola Nadu also ( It is in Thamil Nadu of Course )because looks to me like they have as usuall changed the History AGAIN.
  
  Maybe they will come to Thamil Nadu Chennai and call it the Capital of Singhalam. I can see that They have made up the Proof.
  
  Watch out Thamil Nadu because The Thamils in SL did not care when they first started this singhala Business now we are suffering of it.
  
  mmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaamammaaa
  
  
• From: kodumalan (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Thu Mar 20 07:00:44
  
  The governmentof India claims southern part of deccan based on a common civilization in India.But tribals and allied groups were outside that for a long time as the present majority in the south.But Sozhias,Pandias,mudaliars and allied goups were within that civilization ethnically and culturally especially through jainism
  
  
• From: KODUMALAN (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Thu Mar 20 07:10:42
  
  Singhela is a state and a system of hierarchy which governed the all the singhela speakers till 16th centuy. ut tamil is a certain kind of literature and a living language.
  So the are 2 things.They were not in clash historically.Singhela related living language in the south has died down in Tamilnadu by later Pallava period.
  Even in shri lanka Singhela state used Tamil as a language for commoners when it was on its last legs near present Colombo.This shows Tamil was a spreading language in the middle ages.
  
  
• From: cho (@ 203.197.20.217) on: Mon Mar 24 11:45:40
  
  chozhas from cudapah district andhra area. is wild lawless voilent region even today. is not correct to link ancient tamizh to chozhas, to today;s tamizh. dont have knee jerk reaction just because sinhalese or others claim chozha background also.
  
  
• From: Arikamedu (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Tue Mar 25 03:21:20
  
  Are the words Chola,Pandya,Keralaputhra and Sathyaputhra prakrit or''tamil''
  
  
• From: Arulmozhi Varman (@ 81-178-217-123.dsl.pipex.com) on: Sat Feb 14 21:49:35
  
  Cholas were Tamil ever Tamil
  
  When you don't have good background you will try to pull others have. Thats what ceylonese or other useless trying to do. Karikal Cholan, Rajaraja Cholan, Rajendra Cholan who ruled great Tamil empire lasted for centuries. Cholas have come forever in Tamil who show utmost responsibilities. So don't try to fool yourself. Tamil know the proud Chola glory and you tell your pig stories to your people.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 61.11.54.105) on: Fri Feb 20 03:13:48 EST 2004
  
  cholas are punjabies actually. they came from bahavalpur desert area. it is even today called cholastan. i am not being funny. confirm by yourself the name of the area.
  
  
• From: Mayandi (@ 81-86-231-19.dsl.pipex.com) on: Thu Jul 22 19:10:59
  
  Many European names are ending Puhar doesn't mean Puhar(once Chola Capital City) drawn from Europe how looks stupid as same to cholas are punjabies.
  
  Stop stupid and think wise.
  
  
• From: dev (@ leasedchennai-199.220.83.static.vsnl.net.in) on: Fri Jul 23 02:24:46 EDT 2004
  
  KULOTHNGA AND AFTER THE CHOLAS WERE TELUGU MIXED PERSONS. KOPPERUM CHOLAN WAS A MALLAR[PALLAR]
  
  

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