Topic started by azhakan (@ proxy.dbn.mweb.co.za) on Sat Mar 31 09:01:18 .
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Hi,
Can anyone tell me if brahmins and vellalars (specifically saiva pillais) have historically, or in contemporary times, intermarried. Does the similarity in way of life eg. vegetarianism, certain degree of 'sanskritisation', contribute to lessening the rift between these two communities?

Also, does anyone know the caste-origins of the present sri vaishnava iyengar brahmins originally converted by sri ramanujacharya (ie. from which community were they mostly drawn)?

thanks.

Responses:

• From: azhakan (@ proxy.dbn.mweb.co.za) on: Mon Apr 2 04:29:01
  
  in addition to those, can anybody tell me if the agraharams in the rural communities are becoming more heterogenous in caste composition?
  
  to what extent does the mirasdar system remain in the hands of brahmins and rich vellalars?
  
  
• From: Srini (@ palo5.pacific.net.sg) on: Wed Apr 4 10:55:39
  
  Azhakan: To an extent (I mean based on whatever little I have personally seen)your learning about agraharams is correct. Even in some villages that are home to renowned Perumal temples(AzhwArgaLal mangaLAsAsanam seiyappatta) the total Brahmin families have reduced to some single digit number. In such places the agraharam bears a very catholic look with Muslim families too buying in some houses. And, I don't know anything about the mirasdar system.
  
  
• From: azhakan (@ proxy.dbn.mweb.co.za) on: Wed Apr 4 13:29:16
  
  thanks for the information. i think previously the agraharams in the various rural graamams were kept strictly as residence for brahmin families, and then further divided still into sect (smartha, sri vaishnava) and subsect (brhacharanam, vadama etc). i would expect that now with social and economic mobility, more of the non-brahmins, maybe even adi dravidas, are finding property in the agraharam.
  
  
• From: is it needed? (@ 203.129.222.67) on: Thu May 3 09:23:30
  
  i heared a strange history in thirunelveli..where saiva vellalas are not supposed to touch brahmins as they are sivachariyars...
  
  
• From: Ganesh (@ 192.237.114.65) on: Fri May 4 11:22:14
  
  touching others body is an illegal activity... against the law too...
  
  
• From: udaya (@ ) on: Wed Jan 7 04:29:38
  
  Some Vellala like groups living close to Konkan namely Tulu land owning caste Bunt and Kodagus are fairer than Brahmanas.
  
  
• From: love (@ 61.11.62.20) on: Thu Jan 15 07:17:38 EST 2004
  
  blooody lower caaste iidiots u all fuuck urself....i like tamil babes..so i keep them... who r u to ask?
  
  
  lover of tamil girls
  
  
• From: victor (@ 203.89.203.20) on: Thu Jan 15 13:44:32 EST 2004
  
  Mr. love(coconut head) Why do you love tamil girls, do they have extra while pus**Y?
  Tell me what are the merits you look in Tamil babes?
  
  

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